Where do you get useable trainers these days?

[spunkermonkey]

Where can I get trainers that are NOT made by this CH/H4x0r bunch?

Basically I want trainers that WORK and that doesn't have all garbage wrapped around them..


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[emptieness]

how can we know if trainers are working for you or not? i assume that at least the trainers of the trainermakers are working for themselfes, otherwhise they wouldn't release their stuff. it would most likely help to report your errors to the trainermakers and to help them to improve their work.
but nonetheless dr.oLLe, HoG, dEVIATED, CheatNova and LinGon are pretty much good and solid trainermakers.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Originally Posted by spunkermonkey

Where can I get trainers that are NOT made by this CH/H4x0r bunch?

Uhm, start by reading the Where to find Cheats/Trainers sticky?

[STN]

I am going to suggest my team obviously -> dEViATED. We have been increasing our release activity which was the #1 complaint our members had and covering almost all major game titles so you should find trainers for a lot of new games. A trainer for MW3 and Skyrim/La Noir will be released within a week or two so you can wait for them. We are semi-paid though and do free trainers from time to time, MW3 will be free.

Well I am a gamer myself and when i can't be arsed to make a trainer myself, i use others. These are people i trust and have found their trainers working: Geri, Dr.olle, deltasomething. Oh and perhaps kemicza but he's fully paid now and i am guessing you want free trainers but he puts his best into trainers, was my team-mate before he left so i know him well.

I would NOT suggest Lingon and would tell you to stay away from him because he protects his trainers with VMProtect, blocks countries, most of asian countries,has a whitelist of countries in his trainers and i don't know put a lot of nasty/suspicious stuff in his trainers, his trainer NEVER worked for me. I never bothered to debug his trainers and thought he was just a fake after getting kicked from CES/gamehacking, until Sunbeam told me that he uses VMProtect.

If he feels the need to protect his trainers with a professional protector, block some countries and doesn't care it breaks his trainers for a lot of people, i wouldn't trust that guy one bit. He could be doing nasty stuff to my computer and i wouldn't know because to check his trainer, i need to learn VMprotect unpacking heh.

I stopped packing my trainers with upx because AVs flagged them as malware which was an inconvenience for most users and i have seen almost all good trainer-makers don't pack their trainers or use packers only for reducing filesize.

As for h4x0r, i don't know, their trainers worked for me but after they put the DRM bullshit, i never bothered even if theirs is the only trainer available. We were pissed off from game companies putting DRM crap and now we have to see DRM in trainers ? Seriously ? lol. I can bash them for like hours for doing this but another time maybe

[DavidKs]

Originally Posted by STN

I am going to suggest my team obviously -> dEViATED. We have been increasing our release activity which was the #1 complaint our members had and covering almost all major game titles so you should find trainers for a lot of new games. A trainer for MW3 and Skyrim/La Noir will be released within a week or two so you can wait for them. We are semi-paid though and do free trainers from time to time, MW3 will be free.

Well I am a gamer myself and when i can't be arsed to make a trainer myself, i use others. These are people i trust and have found their trainers working: Geri, Dr.olle, deltasomething. Oh and perhaps kemicza but he's fully paid now and i am guessing you want free trainers but he puts his best into trainers, was my team-mate before he left so i know him well.

I would NOT suggest Lingon and would tell you to stay away from him because he protects his trainers with VMProtect, blocks countries, most of asian countries,has a whitelist of countries in his trainers and i don't know put a lot of nasty/suspicious stuff in his trainers, his trainer NEVER worked for me. I never bothered to debug his trainers and thought he was just a fake after getting kicked from CES/gamehacking, until Sunbeam told me that he uses VMProtect.

If he feels the need to protect his trainers with a professional protector, block some countries and doesn't care it breaks his trainers for a lot of people, i wouldn't trust that guy one bit. He could be doing nasty stuff to my computer and i wouldn't know because to check his trainer, i need to learn VMprotect unpacking heh.

I stopped packing my trainers with upx because AVs flagged them as malware which was an inconvenience for most users and i have seen almost all good trainer-makers don't pack their trainers or use packers only for reducing filesize.

As for h4x0r, i don't know, their trainers worked for me but after they put the DRM bullshit, i never bothered even if theirs is the only trainer available. We were pissed off from game companies putting DRM crap and now we have to see DRM in trainers ? Seriously ? lol. I can bash them for like hours for doing this but another time maybe

First of all STN, What a pittyfull way to try to gain populatiry with talking trash about these other trainermakers.
first of all i know LinGon very well since i talk to him eveery ones on a while and second he was not kicked out from CES/Gamehacking
he decided he dident want to be apart of it himself and decided to quit, and his trainers are nothing of the kind of what you try
so hard to make people believe they are, this is a pure fail in your quest trying to make people dislike those who apparently make aloot better and more enjoyable trainers
then you can make yourself and posting about it like this only makes you look stupid.

Was it because LinGon turned you down as a buddie on youtube STN?
apparently he dicided to not mix himself up with people that trash talk him.
see it as ass kissing to gain more populatiry is not linGons style.
simply put you are a big fail STN and trying to gain more poplularity by trashing other trainermakers
like you are doing here with h4x0r and LinGon.
posting claims you have no facts to backup with. also i dont see how this is even tollerated let alone on this forum,
have this forum not hade enough of trash talking/wars, id leave it up to the owner Empire to say but
you STN a froum leader yourself should know better to not start any flame wars.

on here you are just treading on deep water my friend.
and remember who started it.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Originally Posted by DavidKs

posting claims you have no facts to backup with. also i dont see how this is even tollerated let alone on this forum, have this forum not hade enough of trash talking/wars

Claims without facts to back them up are called "opinions" and they are part of free speech which we do support on this forum. You have your own opinion (you haven't backed up your claims with fact!) which is also fine. What is not fine is your style!

Also, as far as I can see, STN made some relevant points:

1. People who protect their executables in multiple ways may have something else to hide, too. (See malware downloads on fake warez sites for a good example. They sometimes not even get caught by virus scanners!) I'm not sure how good a fact this is but I know you know it's true: people who have nothing to hide should be trusted more than those hiding something. Let me give you an example... Ever heard of "security by obscurity" in commercial software? It does not work, it gets cracked eventually. Ever heard of "symmetric key cryptography" in open source software? It works because knowing the exact algorithm does not help you much with cracking the encryption in a reasonable amount of time.

2. DRM sucks, for any reason, in any form. Does this even need an explanation?!

You haven't answered my post in the other thread so I don't even know which side - if sides are disjunct in this topic at all - you are on. It is, actually, you who started flaming others in both threads (an example from the other: "these trainermakers just continues to show how pathetic they are"). We're interested in everyone's opinions but if you continue like this then you'll be banned soon!

[DavidKs]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

Claims without facts to back them up are called "opinions" and they are part of free speech which we do support on this forum. You have your own opinion (you haven't backed up your claims with fact!) which is also fine. What is not fine is your style!

Also, as far as I can see, STN made some relevant points:

1. People who protect their executables in multiple ways may have something else to hide, too. (See malware downloads on fake warez sites for a good example. They sometimes not even get caught by virus scanners!) I'm not sure how good a fact this is but I know you know it's true: people who have nothing to hide should be trusted more than those hiding something. Let me give you an example... Ever heard of "security by obscurity" in commercial software? It does not work, it gets cracked eventually. Ever heard of "symmetric key cryptography" in open source software? It works because knowing the exact algorithm does not help you much with cracking the encryption in a reasonable amount of time.

2. DRM sucks, for any reason, in any form. Does this even need an explanation?!

You haven't answered my post in the other thread so I don't even know which side - if sides are disjunct in this topic at all - you are on. It is, actually, you who started flaming others in both threads (an example from the other: "these trainermakers just continues to show how pathetic they are"). We're interested in everyone's opinions but if you continue like this then you'll be banned soon!

First threatning me with a ban aint that a bit childish to do like you put it while back?
for the part you dident get about h4x0r and CH i think it was clear enough as to what i meant.

Here goes more simply put: CH is more after your money and h4x0r he brings out free trainer atleast.
LinGon and DR.olle makes better trainers i my opinion.

That was what i was saying back when everyone
was more or less confused about my post it seams, well that was my opinion.
Now let me clearefy to everyone else why you Joe always takes the bennefitting parts here.
ofcourse who can blame you for not taking STNs back here when you his an affliant with your site GWC?
ofcourse you would take his part and start to threat others that dont agree with you.
its only normal behavior aint it?

Well also it doesnt take more then an idiot to realise why some of these said trainermakers takes messures to protect their trainers.
if you dont get that i can unfourtunatley not help you there. Its obviousy not hard to figure out why they do.
LinGon and h4xor and CH and the bunch aint new to this forum i believe and why they all protect their work is also very clear,
atleast to the avarage trainermakers that surounds this forum. the way to protect them could be discussed, but in a more appropritet way
perhapse, just plain out warning people to stay away from trainers you dont like is low style and very childish since it comes from someone
that apparently is a competitor.

What i was pointing out in my last post was that since you Joe yourself has probably grown tired of people
posting flaming others around, i dont see why this is more acceptable then anything else like say when CH or h4x0r is posting things.

Well you make your choice Joe, if you dissagree you can always use the ban hammer on people.

if that makes you more of a man then by all means do.

but then you just prove us all wrong with the part about free thinking and free to have ones own opinions.

you have a nice day sir!

[thegrube]

Isn't Lingon the one that makes you fill out some bullshit survey to get the trainers functional?

[darkedone02]

when there is a lack of a specific trainer for a certain game, I usually check out cheat engine.com at the table section, Geri, Recifense, MOP and other big and small time table/trainer makers make some decent to very awesome trainers, even to not-so-famous games like Europa Univeralis 3 and Hearts of Iron 3.

[TippeX]

skyrim trainer is kinda pointless, as there are cheat codes.. tgm, player.additem 00000f 200000
etc...

[STN]

Well cheats usually flag you as cheater and disable some unlocks etc. Also, cheats don't provide all the functions trainers can such as super jump, teleportation which are pretty useful in games with larger maps.

[emptieness]

I have to say that I made the same experiences like STN. I once downloaded a LinGon trainer (it was for the Alice - Madness Returns game) and it didn't work at all. Can't judge about his other trainers. But in my opinion his way of counting his trainer options (set speed to 1 = first option - set speed to 2 = second option - set speed to 3 = third option) is just an other stupid marketing strategy.
STN - on the other side - provides quality trainers. Althoug I do not fully support his semi paid thingy, I support him and his work. He is really good at what he does. I tested some trainers written by him (AND REVERSED THEM [sorry STN]) and they where (as expected) working flawlessly.

Finally I advice everyone who searches trainer to download them from gcw. They collect for most games more then one trainer and if a trainer isn't working you can take an other one and make your own experience.

[STN]

Update: This is what i get on my youtube profile page
http://www.youtube.com/profile?featu...&view=comments

ThatLinGon: You low life peice of shit STN, calling me a racist, on false grounds, and by theway told my friend you sendt me a buddie request incase your braincells dident get that.
take your kiddi trainers and shove them up your ass!

I can't imagine if i had posted my full post what his reaction would been. I win here.

And why would he tell his friend he got a buddy request and denied it ?. I mean who does that ? Its like telling your buddy i just cummed and the cum was white. lmao nope, you don't tell your friends things like this because that makes you look weird. So now what, LiNGON is social-retard too ? ouch

I am going to actually advise now, STAY AWAY from the guy. The way he is acting is BAD and i mean the real scary type of bad!

[STN]

WTF, Lingon is now ripping videos too ?. Check this out
http://www.******************?v=lVrmUzTh2oI

This is the original video.
http://www.******************?v=qMlELsko4n0

Something to think about. I won't say what i am feeling right now but certainly not happy. Lingon is now the first member of dvt's official hall of shame

I know this might be taken down so i took the liberty of a snipe for proofs.


My only message to you Lingon: Visit DVT for my official message to you since that place isn't moderated and everyone can swear.

Thanks

[Geri]

@supermonkey
Google.

@STN and DavidKS

Good show. Haha. This made me laugh:

Was it because LinGon turned you down as a buddie on youtube STN?
apparently he dicided to not mix himself up with people that trash talk him.
see it as ass kissing to gain more populatiry is not linGons style.

Really LinGon is the type of guy who is posting it on FaceBook when he is refusing a friend request on YouTube?
"Dear World. Today I have refused a friend request from STN on YouTube. I have also disliked a video because it had a bicycle in it. I hate bicycles. And I also hate STN for his trash talking about others. Speaking of trash, the garbage truck just left my house. The truck hit a guy on a bicycle. I wish STN would have been on that bicycle. But no. He is more like the garbage man."

I mean STN was not the most polite and friendly in his post about LinGon's trainers and I have no idea if it was subjective or objective opinion about the trainers, but DavidKS should at least register on the forum with his own name if he wish to defend himself and not bragging about his achievements as if he would be just a diehard fan of himself.