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Old 05-11-2003, 12:53
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Blacklist and SafeDisc 3 list.

Games that have blacklist for Alchol 120%, Nero or CloneCD (etc):
Empires: Dawn of the Modern World
Call of duty
May Payne 2 (1.01)

It's based on the latest version of Alcohol 120% 1.4.7.1005
This list might be fixed on the next version of Alcohol, might also be fixed on Nero. But CloneCD it wont be fixed. No new version is expected yet!


IF you have an old version of Alcohol 120%
All SafeDisc 2.90 games are in the blacklist.

NERO 6.0.0.23 is here! Update!



Games that have SafeDisc 3.00 or SafeDisc 3.10:
Empires: Dawn of the Modern World
Call of duty
FIFA 2004
Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King


Updated: 2003-11-09 01.10 (+1 GMT)

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Old 05-11-2003, 14:09
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Would like to add that clonecd isn't dead at all. Have a look on the slysoft website & you'll see that they already offer a new version.
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Old 05-11-2003, 14:33
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you can change the settings (manufacterer etc.) for the virtual alcohol drives to whatever you want. this should work with blacklisting the default drive settings.
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I can't say it was much reading!

"CloneCD Revision History

CloneCD 4.3.1.7
- The "free update period" for Elaborate Bytes customers was a little tight, we are sorry about that!
- Extended free updated period for Elaborate Bytes customers
- Fixed HelpLauncher.exe to display english texts, if language is not available
- Updated Czech and Finnish languages


CloneCD 4.3.1.6
- New: CloneCD found a new home at SlySoft
- New: Can now emulate SafeDisc 2.9 weak sectors!
- New: Improved weak sector emulation!
- New: Shiny Look under Windows XP
- New: "Hide CDR Media" no longer needs to be disabled while using CloneCD
- New: added support for more CD-Writers
- New: New Online Keys
- New: Added RegCloneCD.exe for new keycodes
- Removed "Virtual CloneDrive" from Distribution, will be a separate download (or you can just use Daemon Tools)
- Removed ControlElbyCDIO from distribution
- Removed ElbyCrypt.dll
- Removed ElbyCheck.exe
- Removed support of CloneCD 2.x keycodes
- Removed "Send E-Mail about a Device" function
- Removed Microsoft HTML-Help
- Removed input window for old keycodes
- Fix: CloneCD Tray no longer interferes with Windows XP Task Bar
- Fix: Hanging context help
- Important Fix: ElbyCDIO reworked, many bugs fixed
- Important Fix: Fixed problems with VIA IDE Busmaster drivers"
are there fixes...

And if they are blacklisted we should expect a new update. Anyway, Nero updating nearly every month, Alcohol take some times... and CloneCD have no clue what interwall it update there program....
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Old 05-11-2003, 15:33
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I dont believe Nero is blacklisted as it doesn't provide any form of emulation, virtual drives, copy protection circumvention etc.
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Nero 5.5.10.0 has virtual drive.
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jeez krondike, make sense

what you mean is that those games are protected with protection such as safedisc or securom, and that safedisc or securom blacklist various drivers / devices / software on your machine, so that if files on the blacklist are discovered the protection will not pass the check, regardless of you having an original cd or not, the games themselves dont have the blacklist, the protections do... if you want a more extensive list of what exactly is blacklisted then i would suggest you debug the protections and see for yourself
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Nero 5.5.10.0 has virtual drive.
True although it's only a virtual recording device - doesn't allow you to mount images
'Virtual drive' may not be the best term, i'm sure there's a distinction between these two types of drives.

Anyway...a virtual drive wouldn't exactly be reason enough for blacklist...it's the emulation that's the killer.
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We realy don't know if Nero or CloneCD is blacklisted. Becuase the one's that's tried have uninstall all. And then run the game.
We don't even know if the crack by pass the blacklist.

But I do know one thing, Alcohol is one of the blacklist, and they working they ass of to make it fix on the next releas!
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Is there anyway to make a backup of call of duty then?

Hey Is there anyway to make a backup of call of duty. I have tried but with no sucess. Always read errors. What program should I use to do it if possible? I noticed alcohol doesnt have safedisc 3 on the list. Ok thank you all. Cheers
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True although it's only a virtual recording device - doesn't allow you to mount images
'Virtual drive' may not be the best term, i'm sure there's a distinction between these two types of drives.

Anyway...a virtual drive wouldn't exactly be reason enough for blacklist...it's the emulation that's the killer.
Its been half a year since I half-hearted played with Nero.

But I made a ".nrg" image of a CD and had Nero mount the image to a new drive letter. I dont recall any emulation of protections.
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Re: Is there anyway to make a backup of call of duty then?

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Hey Is there anyway to make a backup of call of duty. I have tried but with no sucess. Always read errors. What program should I use to do it if possible? I noticed alcohol doesnt have safedisc 3 on the list. Ok thank you all. Cheers
Alcohol 120% still is the one that's works with SafeDisc 3. But here is the problem. You can't do a fust dump! Becuase when you using the original .exe with the original CD it might not work. Becuase of the blacklist thing. So you have to chosses. Waith for the next version of Alcohol 120% or do the slow dump. Can take even a day if it's realy bad. And that's mean that Reading error is normal.

Use Safedisc 2 profile. And accept reading errors!
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so blacklisting means you can not install a back up? installed Empires Dawn of the Modern World from back ok but will not run from exe get runtime error??? or is this part of balck listing


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also they have stopped doing clone cd

4317 is last one
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original the games themselves dont have the blacklist, the protections do... if you want a more extensive list of what exactly is blacklisted then i would suggest you debug the protections and see for yourself
This pretty much says it all. If the crack is properly done, then no blacklist checks. I would be surprised if the companies added the check directly to the "virgin code" and yeah, protections really likes the debugger too But that is another thing...
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