a question about cheat engine and other similar tools.

pikachu5501 · #1 29-04-2007, 22:26

I have weird stuff happening

. I want to make a small trainer and all.. all that part is ok for me. It is just that in some game, it seem that i find the adresse of a value (life for example) but when i change it to the max (at 999 or anything else with cheat engine for example) it is like i did not do any change and the life keep decreasing as it was but when it change, i can still see the value decreasing but when i change it, it is like i din't do anything.... weeiird i say!.

I dont need a full tutorial or a detailed explanation about how to do this and that. I can manage to do that myself. The best way to learn is by searching ourself but sometime, i need a hint about where to go or where is my mistake.

Thank again all for any usefull support.

DABhand · #2 30-04-2007, 04:28

Its what I call a ghost value, i.e a value that is only for the screen.

Look a bit deeper to this value as it has to get from another location to update the screen.

pikachu5501 · #3 30-04-2007, 04:47

Something like to show the life bar. I though so it was something like that and it was a float also. It is a game itself to cheat sometime.

Thank you

DABhand · #4 30-04-2007, 16:06

I wonder what game it is your talking about.

pikachu5501 · #5 30-04-2007, 18:04

Spider-man 3 but i din't buy it myself. It is someone's else. I am not really into playing game and all. I rather make trainer for friends, family and all. I did some successfully but when i get my hand on some newer game, sometime it is not easy to get hold of some value.

Unleashed just released a trainer for it but i wonder how they manage to find the value. I tried everything increased, decreased, changed, no changed, in float, 2, 4, 8 bytes double in any combination possible... anyway. I wish they have a forum or something, i would ask them how they did find the value of the lifebar

. Sometime, even if trainers exist for a game, i like doing one for the fun of it and to learn something on the way. If there is none done yet, i share them with the "scene" like uploading them on ul.gamecopyworld.comom.

Labyrnth · #6 30-04-2007, 20:42

Hello DABhand, So this is where you hang out

Good to see some familiar names still around.

pikachu5501: for that life bar, since you are using cheat engine.

Try doing unknown scan for the first scan and then doing decreased scans till you get the health address.
or
You can do the first scan for a value between 1 and 1000.
Then do decreased scans till you find it or has changed.