help making no cd from exe

mooseboy84 · #1 25-10-2002, 03:00

i was wondering would it be possible, or is there any program that can take an exe and make it a no cd. how do all the exes that are for certain games that are on gamecopyworld get made. i have madden 03, and the want to update the exe, then make a no cd copy of the updated exe. can this be done?

thanks for any help

Mefeus · #2 25-10-2002, 04:57

Sure, if you have a (guess) Safedisk > 2.70.xx -Unwrapper and the game has no CD-Check hardcoded in the programm. Else you have to remove this check manually after unwrapping.

Don't ask here, how to do, before tryed urself with some tutorials around!

Good luck

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mooseboy84 · #3 28-10-2002, 02:10

do you know where i can download safedisc 2.7 unwrapper?

thanks

i checked the game with one unwrapper, and it said version 2.72. if theres an unwrapper that works with 27 it may work 2.72. i tried searching but couldnt find it, could you post a link or email me.

thanks.

themis_t · #4 01-11-2002, 21:14

haven't you found any new unwrappers guys?

themis_t · #5 07-11-2002, 12:53

well,you may be right...but i think you are wrong....look,if you had something that works for many people why not give it to the public?one way or another macromedia will always produse more difficult to break protections euther something is released or not...and anyway....macromedia guys are in all these sites...they may even be you or me or guys that answer many other questions ...well at least i surely know for my self thaT i am not one of them.........

emptyeighty · #6 07-11-2002, 14:36

I have differing thoughts on your one way or another argument. Yes, of course it gets worse with each new version, but in-depth knowledge of the latest unwrappers would make it a lot easier for them to find counter-measures against them. This way they have to do trial and error to see which new protection trick is most effective.

And also i do not think the people who develop these unwrappers share their knowledge with just about anyone. There are probably as many people out there who know how to actually write an unwrapper for the latest Safedisc/SecuROM from crap as there are people who really understand what Einstein's theory of relativity is all about. And i would think these people know how to fool Macrovision by, lets say, setting up decoys or things like that. At least thats what i would do.
But thats just little ol' me speculating about some stuff i really know nothing about

ByteMare · #7 09-11-2002, 13:39

Well, the problem is to code a generic unwrapper for all games protected with one version...sometimes there's additional checks and other crap you gotta deal with...bogus code, crc-checks and of course, some nasty anti-debugging tricks.... most of them can be fixed manually but to make an automatic unwrapper for all... wooahh...remember, that's just for ONE version....getting the picture??

emptyeighty · #8 10-11-2002, 03:01

Of course it is difficult, if it wasnt more people would be able to do it.

HughBackov · #9 11-11-2002, 17:18

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Originally posted by CirKutz
Well macrovision can see where these little tricks are being made, and trust me, they do check for unwrappers. Then if this is the case they make it more and more difficult for unwrappers to work automatically.

Macrovision already knows how to unwrap their own stuff so they already know how any unwrapper would work. They don't need to study a public wrapper so withholding a wrapper from the public does nothing to deter Macrovision from constantly revising its protection. If Macrovision wants to see if the latest version of their protection has been broken, all they have to do is see if cracks for games which use it are available. So, if you release a crack to a game, you might as well release the wrapper because either way Macrovision knows that version of their protection has been broken.

The gaming community needs more sharing of cracking techniques NOT less. For example, if it weren't for r!sc's sharing of his Safedisc crack source code, the Safedisc unwrappers like Bool's which derive from it would not exist (or would have at least taken much longer to develop). The copy-protection developers constantly change their protections regardless of what the crackers do because the developers already know how their protections can be broken and realize that with enough time and effort, others will do exactly that.

gh0sth@cker · #10 12-11-2002, 08:32

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Originally posted by HughBackov
If Macrovision wants to see if the latest version of their protection has been broken, all they have to do is see if cracks for games which use it are available.

Not necessarily - just because there's a crack available doesn't mean there has been an unwrapper developed (although there usually will be at some point). Crackers would be able to crack the protection for one game pretty fast, but it's a different matter making a generic unwrapper for that protection.

themis_t · #11 23-11-2002, 15:16

hey guys look...macrovision is a company ...she has many people working there to earn their living...if they couldn't develop some new methods of protecting the cds they would get fired...i don't think that we would like that if we were at their position...in someway i like it that we cannot have an unwrapper for all the copy protections cause it makes me want to read more so i can understand the protection..i hate guys that want to get some really good reasults by doing nothing and then telling to some of their friends...oh yes i cracked that one yesterday..piece of cake...i think that unwrappers should be made only for saving time and not for saving the lilly %ss of some losers...

HughBackov · #12 28-11-2002, 09:30

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Originally posted by gh0sth@cker
Not necessarily - just because there's a crack available doesn't mean there has been an unwrapper developed (although there usually will be at some point). Crackers would be able to crack the protection for one game pretty fast, but it's a different matter making a generic unwrapper for that protection.

Whether a generic unwrapper exists or not is a moot point. The bottom line is the protection has been broken and must be revised to try to prevent it from being broken in the future.

Of course, the people at Macrovision already know their stuff can always be broken and therefore change it continuously regardless.

HughBackov · #13 28-11-2002, 09:40

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Originally posted by themis_t
in someway i like it that we cannot have an unwrapper for all the copy protections cause it makes me want to read more so i can understand the protection.

The trouble is there is little or no public information about the latest versions of these copy-protections. The few people who know how to defeat them are not sharing what they know.

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i hate guys that want to get some really good reasults by doing nothing and then telling to some of their friends...oh yes i cracked that one yesterday..piece of cake...i think that unwrappers should be made only for saving time and not for saving the lilly %ss of some losers...

You are losing sight of the goal. The goal is to remove the copy-protection from the game so it can be run from any type of drive without hassles. I don't care if some deluded kids claimed they cracked the game or even wrote the game themselves. I just want the deprotected files.

unclepodger · #14 28-11-2002, 22:28

after reading all these posts i get the impression that the case now is that fixed exes will be released but not the unwrappers...am i rite?

gh0sth@cker · #15 29-11-2002, 08:26

Yes the fixed exe's will always be released - the unwrappers are kept private and safe because of the reasons argued above.