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Old 17-05-2002, 20:58
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Well, everyone(?) may perhaps know and/or assume based on prior premise they are buying into a license agreement, AFTER they buy their first software, until then there is no reason to think that there should be a license agreement in the first place. Not to mention, the vast majority of the consumer does NOT even know the difference between a licensed product and a purchased one, much less, what the license entitles them to or not to have in the way of rights, etc. The average consumer, the majority, do NOT even read a warranty statement, much less, a license agreement, nor even know the difference between the two.

The product is "sold" like a purchase, "taxed" like a purchase and paid for like a "purchase" in the mind of the average consumer, technically and legally therefore, one would have no reason to believe this is a lease/license based transaction.

Once you open the box you get to find this out, whether or not you agree thereafter, you're SOL at that point. You're not getting your money from the retailer and you're NOT getting your money from the software maker. The "license" in most cases, can be revoked at any time, without reason, if they so wish to, so you're paying for what exactly, the media???

They warrant the "media" but I'm not paying $30, $40, $50 or more just for a CD Disc, are you? I'm buying it for the "content", aren't you? isn't everyone?

The consumer pays the money for the "content" on the "media" yet the "content" is not warranted, it used to be warranted though, but not anymore.

If, you apply your method of thinking, then there should be no reason to examine, question, discuss or negotiate any agreement then, not for your apartment lease, home mortgage, car loan, etc, etc, etc since "everyone" knows there's an agreement involved, right? Yet this isn't the case.

In order to have a legal and binding agreement, all parties involved need be aware of the said agreement and its content BEFORE a transaction based on the same is finalized. This is clearly NOT the case with the license agreement method being employed currently.

If, you're saying that you would rip off the software companies given the opportunity and you represent the majority, then I guess, yes we should have our rights taken away and the software maker should treat us all as potential thieves, as they currently do, and do exactly what they're doing.

The very fact that you're on this forum, by your own admittance, seeking out methods of circumvention on software protections, says you're obviously not happy with the way things are, otherwise, why would you be trying to have more than what is being gracefully licensed and warranted to you.

Anyhow, I believe, I will retire from this thread now, I can be a passionate bastah (in case you haven't noticed ) and I could go on forever on this issue, but this has gotten old already.

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