Thanks for your reply podunkviller, I will try to behave and be more polite in the future and also to play by the rules
You are right about challenging my self to figure this out on my own......and I would if only I had some time!! I work out part time and have 3 kids so time is something I don't have a lot of........but someday hopefully before i get too old I will be able to have all the time I need to experiment......but in the meantime it's great to get some tips from geniuses like your self and others here at Fileforums! I think that I can partly blame my frankness on the language barrier here since my native language is not english, I focuse too much on getting my questions out to think about how or what I am actually writing........so I hope I am forgiven! I promise to watch my tounge from now on.
Take care,
Sera