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Undying is SafeDisc2 protected, so try BetaBlocker http://www.geocities.com/cdbeta/ to create a perfect backup, if it fails you have to use the Daemonīs fast dump feature http://www.daemon-tools.com (see instructions for details) and play with enabled SafeDisc emulation,
be sure to set the Elby CDIO Control to WinASPI if you use Win9x/ME! (CloneCD program group),
Desperado is Laserlock protected so just create a RAW copy with CloneCD,
it may take some time though to read the read errors (part of the protection),
so this answers your last question: Never do on the fly backups, always create an image first!
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