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Im one of those dudes who cant copy games with SafeDisc 2, but with Nero i have copied the original for backup purposes of course, and have included the no cd file. Works fine. Although i have had my doubts about 'fade' and having read some posted messages saying that it doesnt even exist, i think it was just a thing to scare people, seemed to work on most people, not for very long though.
Peace
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