I didn't - I meant an NTSC to PAL Convertor that sits between the PS2 and the TV. Can't be bothered with all that patching crap - mostly doesn't work anyway and the Kalisto patches (which usually do work) are hard to come by. I still haven't found them. If I get a ripped game to test that patch has already been applied and the person I get it from hasn't applied th epatch either.