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listen, i have absolutely no idea why you want to look at anyone's dll file..erm why is that anyway? just what is it in them that you would find interesting? i'll leave everyne to ponder over that and come to their own conclusions

since you asked, i looked at veggys trainer because of a ****Y remark he posted here:

http://gamehacking.com/forums/introd...8-h4x0r-2.html

where he said some pretty abrasive things:

It's good to see for other people how desperate certain fella's from cheathappens are. This has nothing to do with h4x0r ripping trainers which got never proved by anyone in public, it was all kept behind closed doors (maybe a reason for that). All this shit for the last couple of months is just there to get rid of competition. If you do not want your work to be ripped (if he did is a question to be answered for a couple of months now) than protect your work better. You can't expect someone not breaking into your house if you keep the door open 24/7.

calling us desparate, etc., and hinting there and saying elsewhere that he is doing obfuscation to his trainers to prevent people from hacking his work:

I am obfuscating my code on latest trainers. Happy reversing the obfuscated code. But people not familiair with obfuscating code won't get very far. Also when injecting into memory they can use Cheatengine to find the memory adresses for certain options like speed. Press hotkey, search increased, press again search decreased. But than the fun starts, try to figure out the offsets I used. It's not impossible there are even certain tutorials on the web to do it.

So since he was saying all this ****y stuff and badmouthing me i decided to download and look at his trainer. Lo and behold it did not work on my machine. NOT AT ALL. This is/was unusual for a Brewers release so I delved further and found that the Brewers.dll that was being injected was the culprit. Since he was so ****Y and talking down to us I decided to post my findings (and I posted them with pictures and links to virus scans, etc.) to which Veggy got mad about it and had the mods take it down.

As for wishing for a no working brewers trainer..what a crock of rocking horse shit that remark is

Brewers doesn't RIP our trainers. We don't RIP Brewers trainers. Other than his remarks on some threads occasionally (which I respond to them when appropriate), I don't have a beef with them. Now Hax0r's trainers, which we have found that he RIPS our options, takes our code locations and uses them to formulate his own trainers off the backs of our work, and in some cases has placed .dll's in areas to try and kill our trainers, etc. then YES i am guilty of reversing his trainers to see what he has done or if he has copied us. YOU know this to be true yourself. Also for veggy to say:

This has nothing to do with h4x0r ripping trainers which got never proved by anyone in public, it was all kept behind closed doors (maybe a reason for that).

is just bullshit. No trainer maker believes that. You can hate cheathappens but this guy is a RIPPER. we have statements by him in the freaking GAMEHACKING CHANNEL of mIRC, which the both of you are in quite a bit where he even says it. hax0r created a website separate from sicheats to blog our trainer addresses and post trainers that were supposedly hacked there as well. Am I supposed to just let that stuff go?

which topic did i make about your trainer? you will have to refresh my memory on that one and i can comment on it when i have that info, it all depends which persona of mine wrote it i guess

YOU are the one who mentioned:

so why dont you mosey off back to cheathappens and take your bullshit False Flag propaganda back with you

and all I am saying is I came in here to explain a likely reason this person's trainer isn't working.

i have absolutely no interests in anyone elses trainers and in my opinion you have an unhealthy interest in other peoples trainers, sure check out the competition as we all know free trainers are competitoin whether the spirit is good or otherwise

see what I wrote above and maybe it will clear things up for you.

but messing with the dll etc isnt quite on is it? what is it to you if all the av progs on the planet shouted at brewers trainers? it's not your concern at all so i have asked myself the same question time after time why would you go to the trouble of getting his trainers grabbing the dll and dissing it or sending it to be scanned ?

again, VEGGY started this whole progression. You won't find any BREWERS threads that I started (not unless they mentioned us first).

yes you have spoken to veggy about it and what did he do? he told you to get the fuck off his trainers and mind your own business

I posted above exactly what was written to me. He didn't say what you did. Either way, I think I have the right to explain why things don't work for users just as much as YOU or anyone else here in these forums. At least my explanation has some sort of factual basis behind it.

"as a side note, why all the harshness apache?"
sorry, i just cant help myself, i have this aversion to egomaniastic arseholes

if protecting our work and trying to rid the scene of hacking/stealing wannabe's make's me an egomaniac then whatever. time and time again I have said that I am not the best at this work, and that there are talented people out there, including brewers. some people get along and are more mature than others....


now WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, this guy's problem might not be the Brewers.dll being flagged. who really knows unless you are on his system and seeing it in realtime.