[DABhand]

Originally Posted by apache-yesitisme

well well. here we are

My humble opinion is that i cant effing stand people who steal options ..i have had it happen to me in the past (yes..you know who you are) but what can you do?..indeed i have had fuckwits even accuse moi of ripping options..now come on anyone with half a head and a loaf of bread and who really knows me, knows i dont have to steal anyones options
i agree with the majority here that trainers should not have their files hosted until it can be safely proven its their own work but on the other hand just because cali and chris release a trainer with 5 options and the same day somebody else releases a trainer with equal options, why should it be labeled a ch rip? and as for some code areas ..come on we are all a little lazy and if 1 area of code does the job why go looking for a rare areas and especially concerning the ammo etc
i wont defend a trainer ripper ever, but why should one website dictate another?
it almost reads like cheathappens are saying that gcw would actually be hurt (hits wise, financially?) if cheathappens stops sending the 'promo' trainers or full after their release date, but what would stop anyone harvesting them (once ch has sent them to any other website)? as for 'promo'trainers, well they benefit the maker more than the host, i know this because i was the first(probably) person to make 'promo' trainers, a little respect for trainer makers goes a long way and lets hope that cheathappens screaming thief everytime a trainer is == to one of theirs won't put off the fledgling makers out there.
have they got the right to scream when somebody clones a trainer made by them?, if they can 100% prove it , then they sure have
but dictating what other site owners can do with their own site is over the top even if i do agree with banning kelsat's trainers for ripping
Now as for paying trainers..hmmm iam all for it!! and why not? i used to have this arguement with probably the same arseholes about the same reasons.
anyone who is anyone knows some pretty long hours go into making a trainer and even more into making a great trainer so why not expect reward for it whether its simply recognition or payment
plus it makes the competition stiffer and ecourages the free trainer makers to go beyond the norm and 'man-up' their own work so its a win -win situation for the enduser

Hey patchster

I think I found your Enter button :P heheeh nahh im joking, I know your more than capable, and I agree this could have been handled better.

I agree perhaps nop'ing out a sub or add op same as both trainers should not be suspicious, but kelsat has used options with flaws in the coding that were deliberate and he copied the whole damn code.

I say we blame Sunbeam and his "How to update trainers" tutorial from a few years back, perhaps if tuts like that were not around maybe some of these numbnuts wouldnt know what they could do with olly.