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all newbies,before you waste disc's and your time go to this site and check to see if your game is protected
http://www.geocities.com/psxcplist/
any games I do which are not protected and I will not patch, I use Nero.
For protected games where a patch is available I use CDRWin.
For protected games where no patch availabe or I'm not sure I use Clone.
Oh, btw bot-ck or what ever your name is, I suppose you were born riding yer bike. Don't be so tough on em. eh!.
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