Thanks for the replys. Ya Charlie set me straight back in 2002 on what to do. I was quite the noob back in the day. But I'm just trying to pass it on to someone else. Charlie was patient with me and I will be the same. He's gonna tell me exactly what version ps2 he has and I'll find out where exactly he's located. Thanks Lufcfan for the help. (My first backup solution was an ol' no solder R-mod, so I do know the swap magics work but like you said they are not the best solution

)