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Originally Posted by RK
u're whining cos u have to put the disk in every time?? is it the same for dvd's?? videos?? u dont buy em cos u'd have to put the disk/tape in every time u wanted to watch it??
yes, some ppl have had problems with starforce, but most of those probs have now been sorted afaik, but I havent had a single prob using a starforce protected game on any of my pc's!!
tbh I think its good they copy protect the games!! just take a look at TRD2 - cant say I've seen an image anywhere for it, and its been out about a year now!!
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i can't believe u r saying this.
firstly, my pc is incredibly noisy. when i say noisy i mean, don't bother buying a good set of speakers for your pc cos the background noise is so bad. thus, i keep my pc box under the desk well hidden so that the noise is, at the very least, reduced. thus, it is damn awkward for me to swap cds/dvds when wanting to play a game.
but that's not my main point.
secondly, 'some ppl have problems with starforce'??? are u joking? 'gangland' - when i click on the desktop shortcut - takes from 4-10 minutes 'checking' the cd. and even after this time it does not check it successfully and i have to start again. once it took 3 attempts for me to get gangland running. overall, 18 minutes to start a game. u think that is a small problem?
and not only gangland. chaos theory gives me the same problem. i usually play a game to completion. gangland and CT i have not bothered. would you? starforce protected games force me to wait this amount of time just to PLAY a game. this is most definitely wrong. if it puts a gamer off playing then it is NOT GOOD FOR GAMERS.
thirdly, i don't understand why you are championing this kinda protection? does it make you feel superior to have paid for your game? do you think , 'i am a better person than those non paying gamers? they are scum. i am better than them. i am just better'. it doesn't make any sense that you should have this personal view. how do you benefit? it proly just means you have more money than ppl who don't buy them. so you are superior cos you have more money?
if i have friends who play a torrented version of a game i don't think to myself, 'they are scum.. i will never speak to them again. i thought they were ok ppl'.
i buy games cos i can. it doesn't make me feel superior to do that. i just do.
ok, i undertsand what could happen to the pc games industry if it turned out the 'way of the amiga' but why would u or anybody else have such an avid dislike of non paying gamers? i have played torrented games, decided i liked them then bought them. would u prefer it if non paying gamers were banned from enjoying games altogether? then you could feel superior to them totally.
the reason i dl'd a game? a recent example would be ufo:aftershock. i bought that game, and am now having a nightmare running it. so, i am returning it even tho i like the game. why? cos of stareforce protection. i refuse to pay money for a game i have to wait 20 minutes to play. without a nodvd crack starforce protected games are not worth bothering with. by the time the game starts i have lost interest.
so, in conclusion, i will prolly be forced to download a game to play it because the copy protection stops me from doing so.
and this is a good thing?
<actually, i'll prolly wait till i can afford to buy a better dvd drive but still...>
ps, sorry for this post's length.
<EDIT: a better and more easy way to enforce would be a serial key that has to be confirmed online.. like BF1942. i have never known of anybody using an illegal copy of BF1942 online.. if the key is illegal then u just don't play -obv for online gaming only>
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