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ok done all that had anydvd running in the background opened dvd decrypter it showed no protection but still could not rip it to my hard drive so tried dvd shrink and that would not touch it so tried clone dvd 2 same problem so if anyone has got any ideas please get in touch ive tried several rippers but still got the same problem so i thought it might be my computer so tried my other computer same problem i dont have problems backing up my silver dvds its only the 1s with the red dye on them i did hear that they have put some other kind of protection on them but when i open dvd decrypter with the red disc in without anydvd running it shows the normal protection on the disc does anyone have the same problem or is it just me