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Thanks for the help cats. I've also had the same experience with the cheaper players (I have a samsung that plays everything) I didn't know about the cheaper players having computer players in them, that explains a lot.
Fyi, Philips said "The DVD860 was designed and manufactured before CD-R's or CD-RW discs where common place The system will certainly not playback CD-RW discs, however, it may play back a CD-R though it is not designed to.
Please make sure you are using a high quality brand of CD-R (eg, verbatim, tdk), and that you are recording at a slow speed (ie. 1-4x).
You will also need to ensure the discs are finalised. Unfortunately, there is no firmware update for this model".
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