[barkroc2]

got it. thanks. guess ill have to do some searching tho cuz i started to get into the whole elf thing like 6 mos ago, it got a little complicated and i really had no good use for the whole exploit deal at that time anyway, dont really remember much about it-- ill learn, but is there any other way to play gt4 on hdd w/out the exploit? cuz 1) im lazy and a procrastinator, and 2) gt4's the only dvd9 i got now anyhow