i have pioneer io9 burner, i use tdk cdr's and i used gameclone program. i used to use gamesxcopy and found it was fine until they were closed down. i then bought gameclone from jambalaya and it caters for more copy protected games. i have exclusively used gamclone, my friend uses alcohol and i find that i have slightly better performance from gameclone with my set up. the only games i haven't been ale to copy are those without the nocd crack yet. if i have had a problem copying a game the nocd crack usually solves the problem.