[Jay_83]

It was warlock that made the point about games finding it difficult to read at the edge of the disc---a good and valid point to.

I own Burns rally too and it's no where near as intensive as Burnout 3. I honestly do think that it's a media problem as I used to have a v4 ps2 that would read EVERY single backup ever...exept GTA 3 which caused a read error at times.

From there on it started to go downhill and when that started I then realised how some media was better than others. When your laser is on deaths door the difference between cheap media and high grade really shows.

You have PM