Ok problem sorted,or so it would seem

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@ ash2dust2. It would seem you were right about
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Also, are the 2 machines at the same level of Windows update?
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Hmmm i wouldnt of belived it if the evidence diddnt speak for its self. (or in this case play for its self). I was unsure if both machines were @ the same levle of update with windows so instead of checking i just updated both machines as far as they would go and hey persto the games ran with the cracks on bad PC

. Whilst i do use windows update i have found in the past that some updates fix one problem but cause another so i try to update windows as a last resort. Im very greatfull to both of you for the info/help you provided but more so is my oldest child who can now play the mentioned games on his PC. (I dont let him use mine ever since he killed the last one

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@ RINCE just a quickie
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If you built your own pc's, you're already half way to being a geek
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Whilst i belive this is true dose that mean that you are a fully fledged Geek

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Thanks again ppl