Saint, one thing you'll soon realize is that no matter how many times we say it, no matter how many times it's posted, ppl will STILL ask the questions. I wrote a nice tutorial on the concepts behind DC copying, not an actual walkthru a few posts back, and apparently no one has read it, as they STILL ask. I can see you have the same type of head on your shoulders as a few of us, like Nemesis and myself have: A reasonable one. Stick around, I can see you'll become quite the head turner aroubd here