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Don't bother with these disks if you have got a Pioneer 105 dvd writer. the things don't work. If you want to make coasters then on your head be it.

Just to add a foot note to this. I have tried Nero, Prassi, Recordnow max on the above discs. All failed apart from one using Prassi. When I tried the same configuration again It failed. All the discs have gone milky on the latter burn. Looks as if it's melted the dye. Tried a different brand. No problems. The error happens at different times also. It could be 15 mins in a film or up to an hour. I wrote data to one. I had to shut the machine down to get the disc out of the drive. For some reason, thats the one that sort of works.