Craig im completely closing this debate with you as you are now comming across to me as very amatuerish in this game (No malice intended) Right for a start i don't sell or deal in pirate games but a know a few people how are very big in that game . Secondly how many people who have copied games have gone out and bought the original to make a 1 to 1 backup of it very few i think craig lol . Also the laads i know who deal in these games are not running backwards & forwards to shops buying or renting games to make 1 to 1 copys i mean use your brain alittle m8. So thats leads to the question where do the (WORLDS) yes craig im talking worldwide here mate illegal pirated software come from well guess what its all downloaded from the net and released by the groups Kalisto Paradox and so on , and i would also like to bring it to your attention that its been going on for years so how can it be poor quality that statement is complete nonsence . These groups are well respected worldwide and are responable for cracking many of the complex anti coping aids used by the software companys.Yes you are right that its looking like most of the rips that won't boot are ntsc but if you sell pirate games customers want titles that are out in the usa and japan because they can't wait for the uk release so im sorry to say but if you wait for the uk release then do a 1 to 1 copy you will have missed the boat m8 as many gamers will have got the game elsewhere , as ive said people make big money out of selling games and a couple of the lads i know sell 100's a week so they know there stuff they not pissing around and it was one of these m8's that brought this to my attention about games not booting. Now the fact of the matter is if a pay good money to get a non swap mod fitted i want it to play ntsc rips the fu*king lot not have to wait for a pal release , thats why the messiah chips kick the magics arse i proved my point to you by sending the games to charlie , its also probable that certain pal rips don't boot on ntsc machines fitted with magics so if a mod is having problems booting some rips from another region how can it be as good as a mod that boots anything from any region and remember not a lot of peeps have dvd burners so they depend on rips . As i said at the start of this thread im not speaking to you about this matter again as you just keep comming back with silly statements that i feel are insulting my intelligence instead of admitting you where wrong magics don't boot everything and messiahs do be a man craig and aleast admit it

ive now lost interest in this matter and if anyone else douts the facts all ive got to say to them is meet me bring a couple of grand bet me the magics play everything messiahs do and ill take your money off yer cooooooooool
so i hope you enjoy my reply m8 as its the last you'll ever get from me on this matter , But just one more thing before i go you say the magic out sells the messiah 5-1 hmmmm well did you know that the fiesta out sells the merc 10-1 here in the uk i supose you get what you pay for m8y