I don't hope m8ty i know , ive been in this game long enough to know my stuff infact i find it a bit of an insult to my inteligence that you are douting me. The reason the couple of games i sent charlie where on bad media is because i had already tried coping them on good media at 1x and it made no diff. Its pretty straight forward to me i have no reason to slag the magic chips off other than pure facts these titles plus others will not boot on a magic modded console but as soon as a messiah is fitted all boot no problems even if they have been copied at 16x on shit media.So unless im telling you lies please explain why this happens. Anyway the backend of next week will put this thread to bed once and for all , when you recieve the backups i send you you'll see for yourself so make sure you have a magic & messiah console at the ready or it might be easyer to send them to charlie first with his socket , Anyway ill give you a bell craig when i return as i don't think ill get chance to sort them out and send them 2 morra before i go away