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@Tony G
Chill matey. I wasn't having a personal dig at you just correcting the inaccuracies in your statement.
Your first correction.."you ask about what other options exist, i was suggesting that with sd2 it is rare that a copy works in one cd rom and not another"
That's not terribly accurate as many copies produced by e.g. Plextor 8432 will only work in the burner model from which they were created. That's not rare, in fact it's a common occurence. Check out the link and see how many burners are "only readable in recorder"
####://www.geocities.com/pcp-freak/4cdfreaks/SafeDisc2.html
Secondly....
"the error msg i was taking about is the macrovision box that comes up NOT the windows internal error, simply because i was trying to see if this game was sd2 protected.
as for max payne, b&w, gansters 2 of any protected game for that fact including secure rom, sd 1&2 , clopylok, and any other modern protection if you dont put the cd in and dont have a cracked exe or loader then you will get the offical msg ie "Please insert correct disk" and this is msg , is indictive of the copy protection ie it is not the same for any 2 cd protections"
What Macrovision box?? Never seen one of those. No game uses a "windows internal error". What you see is a call for windows such as GetMessageBoxA with a string contained therein, which is called from within the game executable itself. There is no hard and fast rule here. Other SD2 titles don't give any error message at al. Go and run Black and White without a cd in the draw, and you'll get dumped to windows without any message. None at all. An error message box is not indicative of any commercial protection mechanism, unless there is consistancy from title to title. Consistancy makes protection too easy to crack.
Take Deus Ex for instance. No cd in the drive generates a error message box. Does this mean this is protected by a commercial protection mechanism? No, 5 minutes in Win32Dasm and that "protection" is removed.
You correctly point out that Ollie used the word "beast" in his original comment on SD2 (posted at CdMediaworld). I apologise for using the same word, even though I haven't read that piece for probably over 8 or 9 months since it was first posted. But the fact is, my statement is true.
And finally, your statement that
"if you have an acer or phillips chip set burner (like i do) then you can ALWAYS backup sd2 protected games"
is again only half true. All Acer models produced in recent times can indeed copy 1:1 SD2 titles. But less than half of Phillips burners can achieve this feat.
####://www.elby.de/CloneCD/english/cdr_p.htm
So if you don't like being corrected, mate, get your facts straight.
By the way, I wouldn't be offended by anything you have or might post, as this is not very important on the grand scheme of things, and just healthy debate.
And last but not least.....@Indy2
Glad you've sorted it matey. Just hope the game is worth it!!
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