thanks allot for being my guinea pig im glad it worked i thought it should but just wont boot up on my v4 with the neo 2.2 using ar2 v1.93 with devil may cry demo so i dont know about that have no probs with any other game , any way those disc's i dont know what make they are i was given 50 free from a friend who works for pioneer

i can find out for u if u want anyway thanks again psx_paul have fun