Craig are yours ripped personally or are they the released rips by the cracking groups (kalisto , miracle , ect) as the groups often release pal versions ntsc versions & multis so its hard to tell if you have the same rips , also as bg as said there's lots of clones the first batch i had claimed to be offical magic 2 on a green pcb the last lot where matrix 2 clones on a multi pcb , so when peeps are saying this game works for me its hard to tell if its the same release i know we are having this same debate on another forum as well craig but all i want to do is get to the bottom of it all. The only FACT i know is all 450 backup's of my m8's work flawless on messiah console's and lots don't with magic 2 , all his backups are group release's non are not personally backed up by an individual
