Cheers Mate,
Did not need UnSafeDisk or any of the other two tools mentioned.
Managed to do a working 1:1 copy using Creative Labs 4424 CDR and CloneCD, writing in RAW SAO+SUB mode. Which was a pleasent suprise after failing with Nero, and CDRWin. Both of which crashed the CDR during the read of this CD.
Budgie