Hails once again just another note to thank the ppl who sent me e-mails (you know who you are) of what settings to put them on and 1 guy in particular who told me to check inside my system for any loose/faulty connections well i now have clone writing at 8x from burner and reading at 52x from new cd-rom drive also since i changed a faulty data strip i have had no problems and am making backup cd's now in 10 mins which is great. So well i am basically posting this to apologize for what i said about clonecd in the first post. There i said

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