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sandmaan 09-11-2017 22:10

Why don't re packers use 7-Zip?
 
I'm just trying to figure our why all of you use FreeARC or ARC based compression nested of LZMA or LZMA2 (7Zip).

Doesn't ARC packing and unpacking use lot of RAM compared to LZMA ?

According to the test done by TomsHardware the compression difference is very minor between ARC and LZMA.

78372 10-11-2017 03:01

Why don't you try compressing a game using lzma and fa? You will know the difference soon


Plus repackers use fa for applying other precompressors and preprocessors with lzma, not actually for fa compression.

EzzEldin16 10-11-2017 07:14

GOG used Rar compression for a couple of games "small games" final station for example
everyone have their own way for compressing files
everyone have every choice

Joe Forster/STA 10-11-2017 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzzEldin16 (Post 463975)
GOG used Rar compression for a couple of games "small games"

Probably, GOG has enough download bandwidth so they don't care about file sizes.

EzzEldin16 10-11-2017 10:40

No they just apply some kind of basic compression one algorithm for everything and it's probably Rar

sandmaan 11-11-2017 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78372 (Post 463968)
Why don't you try compressing a game using lzma and fa? You will know the difference soon


Plus repackers use fa for applying other precompressors and preprocessors with lzma, not actually for fa compression.

I have tried LZMA ans FA and other stuff with them (SREP, PreComp ...) when I used FA it took longer to decompress. That's why I'm asking it here to make a decision on what to use. I'm kind of on the back foot with FA 'cos it's not in active development.

78372 11-11-2017 20:28

Well here the trade is with ratio and unpacking time. For GTA V (as example), most of the people who use repacks won't mind to sacrifice an hour more on decompression for around 30GB gain.

ravencrow 19-11-2017 04:36

Cause repackers are not coders, adding a compression algo in 7zip requires writing code and compiling it where as in fa, you can do that with arc.ini. And that's all :)

Gupta 19-11-2017 05:40

and even if someone is willing then there are no documents available
but if you explore a bit you can do much more with 7zip, then you can ever think with arc

Jiva newstone 19-11-2017 09:15

because lzma is inbuilt with unarc.dll so it can work and unpack faster , using an arc.ini file some bit slow unpacking hence some times repacker uses 7zip and many times uses on lzma. also cause incompatibility or crase in 7z.exe so it better to use lzma in ARC

panker1992 21-02-2018 08:37

Download Nioh and try
Code:

lzma:512m:ultra:a1:mfbt4:fb273:mc100000:lc8:lp4:pb4
and then try

Code:

srep:m3f:a1+lzma:512m:ultra:a1:mfbt4:fb273:mc100000:lc8:lp4:pb4
and soon you will understand why 7z<fa

you can even use 7z pipe to pipe in freearc this way

Code:

7z a -txz -an -m1=lzma2{:option}:fb=273:mf=bt4:mc=100000000:lc=4:lp=0 -mmt=6 -mx9 -si -so <stdin> <stdout>


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