I did it ! Cheers All
 

Thanks for this Forum, the Web Site, Xena and Ivan. I managed to "backup" Sega Rally 2 using a serial cable, and it worked first time from the Echelon Self Boot method. Couldn't believe it, I thought something would go wrong and my CD Writer is a crappy £70 IDE Freecom one and still burnt it right ! 1 question though I had 17 CDDA tracks and I used the smallest one to overwrite the others plus make 2 dummy ones Track01 and Track02, is this correct? I also used CDRecord as CDRWin wouldn't do multi session on my drive... Roll on the next one....Thanks again....