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psxmodsuk 05-01-2003 14:09

Charlie (regarding magic 2 & 3's not playing all)
 
Hi Charlie ive been away so i haven't been in touch did you get round to testing the backups i sent you on the magic chips . As i can now confirm 100% that the magic 2 & 3 MODS DO NOT PLAY ALL BACKUPS , ive been away on my hols ive came back to a number of installers emails stating this fact that they are having the same problems so it looks as though i was right in the first place the problem seems to lie with dvd rips not dvdrs and the titles that magic 2 will not play magic 3 won't either. As ive also said all along im not promoting any chip for financial gain the fact is if you buy a non swap mod it dosen't matter if its £15 OR £30 you expect it to do what it says boot all ps2 backups well im sorry to say but the magic series chips DON'T.
So at the end of the day the choice is up to the individual but i along with a few other installers i know will not be stocking any magic mods untill the problems sorted no matter how cheap they become ;)

charlie_ps2 05-01-2003 15:50

I posted a reply some time ago. Anyway since then I've put the 37 pin rig on the PS2 and so can swap chips in seconds. here's the results:

GT3 Kalisto Rip

Magic 3 Red Screen
Apple Boots and plays
Messiah2 Boots and plays


Resident Evil Rip

Magic 3 Red Screen
Apple Boots and hangs at "3 months later"
Messiah2 Boots and hangs at "3 months later"


CONCLUSION

I believe that the GT3 issue is a boot timing issue. The Booting strategy for Magic 3 is based on a fixed cycle (so I understand) and when that has passed, it tries to boot anyway. Some games freeze (depending where in the cycle it is) others go RSoD.

If the media were perfect I believe it would be able to boot with Magic 3. I might try a copy onto "better" media.

The Resident Evil issue is, in my opinion a bad rip and probably the same problem on Magic 3 as GT3.

If you need Messiah 2s.....

MIKE-P-28 05-01-2003 17:12

You damn right mate, it dont boot maybe 25% of them,

I have found something funny tho, i have several I have downloaded from the net and they WILL NOT work. Go and copy my orginal and it will load :) What the hell!?

Now i havent burned any DVD R's yet.. We'll see, but I say thats pretty shitty to say it will boot ALL and it wont boot maybe a 1/4.

I havent found a pattern to it yet, it doesnt matter if its OLD or NEW game, some will not load... I even tried using a gameshark to boot them, still no go :(

Hull_chipper 05-01-2003 17:51

Ok guys can we do a trial here. I have a GT3 Kalisto rip which boots fine on the magic 2/3's I use. Can we exchange & see if the results remain the same.

Pm me for more info

MIKE-P-28 05-01-2003 18:12

I think there are many variables here and not only just the game in question, it has something to do with the media. I found that i load more from verbatim's than I do another type of disc?

What do you mean by exchange? You can PM as well

cheers m8

Hull_chipper 05-01-2003 18:23

Not meaning 'trade' but swap the same titles in order to see if we get difffering results. I also have a back-up of 7 blades (730mb) that boots fine with a no-solder mod!!!!

psxmodsuk 06-01-2003 02:32

crap
 
Craig im getting into this debate again i know of 3 or 4 installers that sell illegal games as well as chipping so these guys no their stuff , they all are telling me the same games don't boot all the games they have are downloaded from the net (group releases) .Where at the end of the day most pirate games come from , the gt3 rip you have may have been ripped by yourself or somebody else . Craig why you will not listen is beyond me maybe you are selling the magics and don't want them slagging off ?. Look mate these lads i know who sell the games sell 100's now what charlie is saying is wrong also as they have tried copying the one's that don't boot on better type's of media at even 1X and still NO BOOT ON MAGIC 2 OR 3 BUT ALL BOOT ON MESSIAH 1 & 2 . What im going to do craig to prove this to you is ill send you 10 or so backups (group releases that don't boot with the magic's and you can see for yourself pm me . I also don't think with the upmost respect charlie that what your saying is right as ive said the games have been tryed on all diff types of media and they will not boot full stop so maybe when craigs finished with them he can forward them on to you
regards

Hull_chipper 06-01-2003 02:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Hull_chipper
I have a GT3 Kalisto rip which boots fine on the magic 2/3's I use.
As I pointed out m8, I have a GT3 rip from Kalisto, which works fine with magics, however Charlie has a GT3 rip from Kalisto which doesn't!

Without getting into a long drawn out debate (where we both look stupid) the reason I won't listen is cos, I'm getting different results!

Do you think I would continually buy a mod which doesn't work? Do you not think my customers would get upset & spread negative vibes about my work?

I'm more than happy to do any trials that u like m8.
Check ur pm
Craig

dust2dust 06-01-2003 05:20

hehe i love it

psxmodsuk 06-01-2003 15:25

FUN & GAMES
 
Its getting fun now dust er , Anyways im sorting something out with craig (hullchipper) for him to do some tests of his own but i thought peeps would be finding out that a lot of the ps2 group release's don't boot with the magics , But as craig said he has a kalisto rip that works but kalisto released a pal & us version and poss a final muti version so its hard to tell but as ive said a number of game supplyers i know who all download stuff ffast connections ect (1meg) are all having problems with the same games with the magic chips as a couple of them mod consoles as well. Anyways when im proved right i shall have a lovely shortcut to this thread and even the others i posted a couple of months ago , the way it stands at present id put my house on it & ive been in this game for 7 years or so so we'll wait and see
regards ;)

Hull_chipper 06-01-2003 15:38

7 years eh? Hope u not getting left behind m8 ;)

Just 4 the record m8, u can keep ur house (too many geordies up there lol) but it's only fair the loser buys me a crate of my favorite tetleys (and I don't mean tea bags either b4 anybody adds:D )

PISTOLS @ DAWN :p

psxmodsuk 06-01-2003 16:08

footy
 
Now im not getting into a footy debate craig but calling us m'boro fans gordies (even typing it makes me cringe) is a bit of an insult You say you travel north quite a bit and you don't know the difference between gordies mackam's & boro , Are you sure that non of that beautiful northern air that you have been breathing in on your travels has gone to your head & maybe all the games your trying on your magic machine are booting first time (if you know what i mean lol) Try having a lie down for a couple of hours m8y And when im proved right you can buy me a case of stella its a lot better than that shandy yer going on about


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Hull_chipper 06-01-2003 16:29

BITE
 
"they kept on coming in the same old way, we kept on killing them in the same old way"

Of course I know the dif between macams, geordies, monkey hangers and alike........ But I also know how to wind em up :D

IT'S JUST TOO EASY PMSL

psxmodsuk 06-01-2003 16:46

beginner
 
I don't belive you craig i think your a bit of a newcommer to all this and a tetley drinker to boot and only joining in nov 2002 you may have made a lot of posts in that time m8y , but i would myself but im away alot and don't always get access to the net , well keep up the good work son i only wish i could say im gonna be proved wrong mate but it ain't happening man:D
regards ;)

:cool:

Hull_chipper 06-01-2003 16:53

long story m8 - my password was hacked & a dodgy geezer (psxgunman) was leaving posts under my name.

No point playing on the newboy image then lol


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