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Urso 31-07-2001 13:03

Black & White Screen ! Please Help Me !
 
I have some PS2 back ups that work perfectly on a TV screen (color images). And I have an old monitor (of the Commodore Amiga), where I can connect the PS2, with the normal cable that came with it ! But the problem is... If I put a DVD, a PSX (back up) or an original PS2 game, I see color images (on that monitor), but if I use a PS2 back up, I see the image but only in grey scale (black & white) !
Does anybody knows the reason of it and can help me !
I would like to use the monitor instead of a TV set.
Thanks !

Mulder2001 31-07-2001 13:18

maybe you need a another Scart lead? i had a old one that i used for my Ps1 the one you get with your ps2 doesnt carry the same signal as the other one i have cause i noticed that it wont carry the RGB signal to my TV screen its fine for AV but not RGB!

Mulder2001 31-07-2001 13:22

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Mulder2001 (31-07-2001 21:18):
maybe you need a another Scart lead? i had a old one that i used for my Ps1 the one you get with your ps2 doesnt carry the same signal as the other one i have cause i noticed that it wont carry the RGB signal to my TV screen its fine for AV but not RGB! I hope this helps now maybe you can help me by telling me how do you make a Ps2 backup? as i have yet to do it ! see my meesage above yours ? PLEASE!

Charlie 31-07-2001 13:51

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Urso (31-07-2001 21:03):
I have some PS2 back ups that work perfectly on a TV screen (color images). And I have an old monitor (of the Commodore Amiga), where I can connect the PS2, with the normal cable that came with it ! But the problem is... If I put a DVD, a PSX (back up) or an original PS2 game, I see color images (on that monitor), but if I use a PS2 back up, I see the image but only in grey scale (black & white) !
Does anybody knows the reason of it and can help me !
I would like to use the monitor instead of a TV set.
Thanks !
Accepting the validity of DEWEZZEL's answer last week, let's try and unpick this one.

1/
The TV works perfectly using the standard PS2 cable. So that means the electronics of your TV (modulation detection etc) matches whatever is output by the PS2. You don't mention whether or not there is a mix of NTSC & PAL backups nor whether you've patched the backups for PAL. (I assume from your spelling of Grey that you're in a PAL country).

2/
You say that the AMiga monitor doesn't like backups. Now I don't know much about the Amiga (for example I thought it used an RGB monitor of the SVGA kind). But if it's a TV type of monitor, then it seems not to be the same modulation specification as your regular TV; thus it cannot sync with the colour when it displays greyscale. So, what else could be different? Well, have the backups been patched for PAL? Or are they NTSC and the Amiga Monitor, not being to the high spec of your TV cannot resolve the colour? The originals would work if the PS2 output matched the modulation of the Amiga monitor.

I know what I'm trying to say. Hope it makes sense to you. Very intriguing.

Urso 21-08-2001 04:35

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Charlie (31-07-2001 21:51):
Quote:

Urso (31-07-2001 21:03):
I have some PS2 back ups that work perfectly on a TV screen (color images). And I have an old monitor (of the Commodore Amiga), where I can connect the PS2, with the normal cable that came with it ! But the problem is... If I put a DVD, a PSX (back up) or an original PS2 game, I see color images (on that monitor), but if I use a PS2 back up, I see the image but only in grey scale (black & white) !
Does anybody knows the reason of it and can help me !
I would like to use the monitor instead of a TV set.
Thanks !
Accepting the validity of DEWEZZEL's answer last week, let's try and unpick this one.

1/
The TV works perfectly using the standard PS2 cable. So that means the electronics of your TV (modulation detection etc) matches whatever is output by the PS2. You don't mention whether or not there is a mix of NTSC & PAL backups nor whether you've patched the backups for PAL. (I assume from your spelling of Grey that you're in a PAL country).

2/
You say that the AMiga monitor doesn't like backups. Now I don't know much about the Amiga (for example I thought it used an RGB monitor of the SVGA kind). But if it's a TV type of monitor, then it seems not to be the same modulation specification as your regular TV; thus it cannot sync with the colour when it displays greyscale. So, what else could be different? Well, have the backups been patched for PAL? Or are they NTSC and the Amiga Monitor, not being to the high spec of your TV cannot resolve the colour? The originals would work if the PS2 output matched the modulation of the Amiga monitor.

I know what I'm trying to say. Hope it makes sense to you. Very intriguing.
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Thanks ! The proble was that the backups I had were NTSC, I made backups from PAL games and They worked perfectly (I mean, the image have color). One more time ... Thanks for Your Help (now I wil try to convert them with a program to convert NTSC to PAL).


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