Ps2 dvd demo disc
 

just a note to say thanks for the advice i received from charlie and the rest of you . i got my ntsc original copy of mgs2 which i had as a present for xmas i got it backed up to a dvdr and was able to boot it on my neo 4 pal machine with ps2 dvd demo disc it has a TOC of 4.36g thanx for the advice about getting my installer to check the wiring he had missed the dvdr wires off so now i can boot the game its awesome.