cdr-win or clone cd?
 

which one of these is best? I've tried patching TOCA WTC with cdr-win and it just won't work. does clone cd avoid the need for patching?

thanks

CloneCD works better than cdr win in my experience and you can also apply patches to the clonecd image files. If your burner can write sub channel data than you don't need patches with clonecd but if it doesn't you will need them. Also I tend to find that cdrwin doesn't copy games properly and you get movies jumping and sound corruption longer loading times etc..
cheers

Well, Cdrwin always works for me, Clone Cd supports my reader and writter, but never creates a working backup. Use Cdrwin for patching games and PPF-o-matic

I agree my burner also supports clone cd,but i have created more coasters than i have cups for with this.I have had 99.9% success with cdrwin. I occasionally use blindread if the original cd is damaged.