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john486496 05-01-2006 14:03

new method to bypass starforce 3!
 
Bypassing new starforce 3.x games without using SFnightmare or unplugging drives.


Test by Roms6 - 12/07/2005 Translated by French Lover.



This method should be right for all games protected by starforce 3.x without the need to use SF Nightmare or unplug your CD/DVD drives.

You need :

• The right image of your game, I don't give you advices, as settings in Alcohol120% to create your image file vary for each game ;

• VirtualDrive Pro 10, which will hide your drives safely and perfectly.

• Daemon Tools 4.


VirtualDrive Pro 10 installation


Run VirtualDrive Pro, it should take a long time to install, as it copy his own drivers.

By default, VirtualDrive Pro will be installed in C:\Program Files\FarSton\VDPro.

VirtualDrivePro will ask you to install at least one drive. Note you can change the number of drives after installation.
Once it's finished, please reboot your computer as it said.


Using VirtualDrive pro


Before using your image with Daemon Tools 4, you have to set your software.

• Right Click to VirtualDrive Pro icon on systeme tray , then click on « VCD Manager ».

• In the new windows go to « Tools » then click on « Disable CD ». Quit VirtualDrive Pro ;

• Mount image of your game protected by starforce in Daemon Tools 4. Note that all emulation must be set to off .

• Run your game from a desktop shortcut. Be patient!


Re-enabling your drive


You can do this by coming back to "Tools" , then click on "Enable CD"
If your CD/DVD drives are not re-enabled, try this:
• Go to control Panel, then System.
• In new windows, go to Hardware tab, click on device manager
• In DVD/CD ROM Drives section, right-click on your drive and select "activate"
Reboot to find again your drive in explorer.


GAMES SHOULD WORK (NEED TEStERS!) with VDPRO10:

- Worms 4 Mayhem (incl. Update-Patch,Nforce Chipset)
- Prince Of Persia - The Two Thrones (NforceChipset)
- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (Nforce,ULI chipsets)
- Trackmania Sunrise (incl. eXtreme Add-On/Patch) (Nforce ,ULI chipsets)
-The Suffering Ties That Bind (ULI chipsets)
-PJ King Kong (Nforce, ULI chipsets)



-->:D Big Thanks to !HaGaR! , XdaywalkerX to submit their result :D <--

temp 05-01-2006 15:39

I play them anyhow without unplugging anything, i use one the apps to hide ata or i simple dissable in device manager for my gameplay time (no reboot needed) thats the nice thing about sata hdds.

I for one aint gonna install any more crap that puts drivers on pc SDhide does me for now.

Grumpy 05-01-2006 23:24

@temp
'john486496' has taken his time to register and post something that could very well be usefull to other members, especially those members who do NOT have sata hardrives!
There are always different methods available to help others but they wont always be methods you personally agree with therefore you should not criticize other peoples input!
It was his very first post and yet you may have very well put him off from ever posting ideas here again!
Lighten up next time please and think before you type!

leezer3 06-01-2006 02:16

Sorry to dissapoint, but the original poster has a Nforce mobo ;)
Just checked, & all Farstone does is to disable the drives via Windoze device manager, and this doesn't fool SF unless you are one of the lucky ones. (Tested on a Compaq machine, no idea what mobo chipset)

-Leezer-

glenbo 06-01-2006 04:15

i have a nforce chipset and none of this stuff ever works for me lol.

its always 1 of 2 things for me,a no cd crack or my original disc.

prakash_tiwari2004 06-01-2006 04:50

hey thats good new i think Brian Lara Cricket 2005 also come with star force 3 so can u please tell me how to make the image of 1st disc so i can play that game,reply me fast pls

john486496 06-01-2006 05:28

hI all !

temp,all drivers can mess a system.However this drivers works perfectly for me as said in tutorial, at the contrary to SFNigtmare with my system.

grumpy,thanks, you are right, all people can't have a sata harddrives!
This is the consequences of complexity of starforce that make different issue for each user.

RIght.:eek: When I have read temp post,I think that I should not post anymore in this forum,cause I have take the time to translate and test this method and this sort of people should use more of his brain instead of claims:"I dont need that....blah...blah"

leezer3 I confirm that this method work with non nforce chipset:I have a intel Pentium M based chip.Be care to order and number of drives.

However I have tested with only Trackmania sunrise (starforce 3.4.71.19).Maybe newest version of starforce blacklist VirtualDrive Pro.
As contrary to someone said in daemon tools forums,I think this could be a good product for backup cd/dvd.

It would be interessant to test the backup possibilities with starforce 3 (officially supported in v10)and securom 7..worse than alcohol120%?
Can someone post his result here ?it would be nice:p

I don't have time to test with other games ,but I think if we combines this method with other and other tips against starforce (sfcure method,rename drivers of VDRIVEpro..) we can find new method to bypass starforce while waitng ide jammer's daemon tools!

Testers and specialists feel free to find this new ways with VirtualDrive pro,daemon tools,alcohol120% : WE NEED YOU !

leezer3 06-01-2006 05:35

Hiya mate,
Any chance of you providing some more complete system info please?
Just tried this on the lappy (Tecra S1, Centrino chipset) & SF works without drives being disabled in any way (POP 2T). It sounds to me as if we may have found another 'inacessible' chipset, or it could possibly be related to the fact that I anyway have a hotpluggable DVD/ HDD. (Normally use the HDD)
An Everest report would be great :cool:

Cheers

-Leezer-

Joe Forster/STA 06-01-2006 05:54

(It is very sad to see the home edition of Lavalys Everest, formerly AIDA32, an "industry standard" free software, having been discontinued... :()

!HaGaR! 06-01-2006 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA
(It is very sad to see the home edition of Lavalys Everest, formerly AIDA32, an "industry standard" free software, having been discontinued... :()

@J.F./STA - Yep. Sad, that they stopped the free one. Offtopic, though ;)

Well, VirtualDrive10 isn´t that cheap at all... Around fifty bucks.
But, I´ll have a try if my trial-download-mail will appear in the inbox...
Dammit, hate registrations for trialware...

Bye the way: Nice post, if it works! Thx for sharing!
But... I´m afraid how long this method will face the starforce-updates...


UPDATE:
=======

Workaround confirmed with:
- Worms 4 Mayhem (incl. Update-Patch)
- Prince Of Persia - The Two Thrones

Used Virtual Drive 10 for disabling, image mounted in Daemon Tools V4.00

Motherboard-Chipset: Nforce 2
Before installing VirtualDrive 10: Starforce detected IDE drive and wants the disc there
After installing VirtualDrive 10 and following the guide above: Starforce checks discs and succeeded.

Fooling around a bit more with it tonight...
BTW: VirtualDrive10 gives you a fifteen day trial...

UPDATE 2:
========

Confirmed Games:
- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (Retail)
- Trackmania Sunrise (incl. eXtreme Add-On/Patch)

UPDATE 3:
========

Tested Game: Trackmania Sunrise eXtreme
- Software-Drive-Disabling via Starforce Nightmare: Detected, Starforce gives Error-Feedback
- Software-Drive-Disabling via Virtual Drive 10: Successfull, game starts

Re-Enabling drives gives a little error. While disabling the ide-drives, HardwareManager reports a deactivated Nforce-Controller. After re-enabling them, the Nforce-Controller is "enabled" again, but the IDE-Drives under the "Drives"-Tab is still disabled. Right-Clicking on it and "reactivating" the drive is successfull. Drive is recognized by windows and other applications (nero) again. Reboot was not needed.

Small hint: With SFN-Deactivated IDE-Drive the Virtual Disc 10 application reports an error when it tries to deactivate the IDE-Drive, but starforce will be cheated nevertheless.

Well... Something strange happened... Had the idea to test VD10s abilities to start starforce-images... But... VD10 recognizes its OWN virtual drives as physical ones... Deactivated Daemons Drives, but problem still stays the same. Added another virual drive with VD10, rebooted as requested... Same thing again... VD10s virtual one appears to be a physical to it... Trial-Limitation? Would be weird, though...

Any suggestions!?

neptun 06-01-2006 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by john486496
....However I have tested with only Trackmania sunrise (starforce 3.4.71.19).Maybe newest version of starforce blacklist VirtualDrive Pro....

Up to version 3.4 of starforce ( included 3.4 ) software disable of drives through device manager or using SFNightmare works.The problem is with 3.5 and 3.6.For this versions software disable works most of the time for nforce based motherboards and fof pentium m chipsets as i see but for other chipsets this does not work anymore.All this things with hiding of devices are a temporary solution.The next version of starforce and maybe even the next patch for a game will make it not to work anymore.The real sollution is either an IDE virtual drive or the hope that someone will find a way to crack all starforce games ( which is not possible in my opinion ).Another good solution is to use additional IDE controller on PCI slot and connect your optical drives to it so windows detect them as SCSI devices.

Evil Homer 06-01-2006 14:46

PCI Cards work fine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neptun
The real sollution is either an IDE virtual drive or the hope that someone will find a way to crack all starforce games ( which is not possible in my opinion ).Another good solution is to use additional IDE controller on PCI slot and connect your optical drives to it so windows detect them as SCSI devices.

Yes, I agree the ultimate starforce crack would be great but I can confirm that using a PCI Raid card to connect your opticals works fine, since I've been using one there isn't a Starforce game that I can't play with an image. Thats provided that you spend some time trying to create the right image. I use Alcohol 120% for all my images and sometimes it may take 4, 5 or even 6 try's with different settings and speeds but as I said I haven't got a Starforce game that doesn't work. Here's just a few of the games that work.
*Splinter Cell, Chaos Theory
*V8 Supercars 2 (Aust), Toca Race Driver 2 (Eng) DTM Race Driver2 (Ger)
*Ricky Ponting-International Cricket- I think Brian Lara's Cricket is identical game.
*King Kong
*Prince of Persia-The Two Thrones
*BOS-Bet On Soldier
*Worms 4-Mayhem
Thats what I can actually play ATM without unplugging anything, no doubt there would be more Starforce games it would work with but I don't own anymore.
There is one problem though, I have Sata drives on this machine and none of those games worked before with any kind of workaround, now they all work on this machine but I also installed the same kind of Raid card on my other machine that has IDE hard drives and for the life of me I can't get it to run properly with card installed so I can't try the games until I get the machine running with the card.
Anyway just thought I'd let you know this method does work but if anyone has any ideas on why my other machine won't work I would love to hear from you.
Thanks EH

john486496 06-01-2006 14:56

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thanx for all your answers,guys !
I do interesting search so post will be long.

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FIRST PART STARFORCE PROTECTION:
The hide function of VirtualDrive Pro 10 is definively not the same as "desactivate" in Windows Device manager.

For me ,Trackmania sunrise doesn't run with desactivating in Windows Device manager.

Trackmania sunrise run with "disabling function" of VDPRO10

So I think the hide function Tool in VirtualDrive Pro can be compared to SFNIghtmare,with less hardware/software issues than SFNIghtmare .


In addition it will be more safe to rename Virtual Drive oF vDPro10 or uninstall it on device manager (it's called FvFInc-CDDVD-2003-200x0800)
If you uninstall it,it will be reinstalled automatically on next reboot,no problem;)

Many thanx to you,!HaGaR! I create a database in beginning of my topic with working game.

Or perhaps,that seems to work on a system,but no warranty,this is the problem of starforce.

I thinks it would be great to send a solution pack for each game on gamescopyworld instead only one with the fixed images.
So users,who want to play his game without cd/dvd inserted should find a solution on his fit.

Yes,neptun ,you 're right hiding devices and others tricks different than IDE Jammer,IDE Virtual Drive in Daemon Tools will always been a temporary solution.But if we people can make this sort of pack for each games,that be a good things,instead of partial
solutions.

Ah starforce v>3.4 seems to not work in non nforce or Pm motherboards.
Can people that have a different system post their result? There are hundred people who read this topics!
Why not you?
Yes,you in back of classroom!
Can you tell me ? ;)


Perhaps I will update the tutorial and post it backup sites.

Also,I'm still convinced that with this new tools and with old tricks,we can bypass even the new versions of starforce.I repeat for news:

Testers and specialists feel free to find this new ways with VirtualDrive pro,daemon tools,alcohol120% : WE NEED YOU !
Anyone has try to create or copy his cd/dvd with VirtualDrivePro 10 with starforce3 options enabled.This tool should be more etudied with other to find new bypass methods!

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SECOND PART:Trackmania sunrise

I have updated trackmania sunrise with trackmania sunrise extrem.

SO,New versions of starforce have been installed there (>3.4)

Before installing trackmania xtrem,I kept a backup of trackmania sunrise exe.


I run the old exe after installing trackmania extrem with VDPRO10 method.Fine,no problem.Of course,I can't play the game because media contents changed,but starforce is bypassed.
Note that I have never run the new exe of trackmania


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Now I run the new exe,the games doesn't run trick is detected.

Now I run the old exe,it doesn't works anymore.
---Conclusion----:

I think new starforce were really set when I run the new exe.
THis is't not a news,because when you uninstall with sfcleaner (it doesn't do a good job for new version,note that) and you run the exe after it ask you to reboot to complete installation of starforce drivers.

In fact exe unpack starforce drivers which are stored in dat or dll file.

------

If you want to play sunrise extrem,with few restrictions,you can keep the old exe,but you will have to correct path in gamedata and resource.This works for few things (tracks..)

Note that I have tried to add all features,6 month before to demo version ,but this didn't work.

Best regards,
John.
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UPDATED:
Hi !HaGaR!
what do you mean by physical drive? in explorer I Have this bug,it appears as physsical drive sometimes.But it disappears when I reboot.Note that I have the legally licenced version.So this a bug.iF you can test other of his possibilities It would be great ;-)

!HaGaR! 06-01-2006 15:37

Update 4
 
King Kong - The Game - Also confirmed. Running Out of Starforce-Games ;-D

Btw... Still searching for a reason, why VD10 doesn´t recognize its own virtual drives as virtual ones... On my system, VD10 believes they are pyhsical... (Drives are listed under "other drives".)

N8

To describe the behavior of the "virtual" drive of VD10 (unlicensed trial-version!)

At the windows explorer, all drives I added with VD10 are visible and accessible. If I doubleclick the icon it says, that there is no disc inserted - like a real empty drive. But when I enter the VCD-Manager of VD10, the "Virtual Drive"-List is empty and all "optical" drives (virtual VD10-drives, virtual daemon drives and physical ide-drives) appear under the "other drives"-List. Checking the drive-details also shows, that the vd10 drive is here, but recognized as a physikal. Insert/Eject-Buttons are ghosted. No way to mount an image in here...

Well, as I am a customer of DT I will wait until their release of the jammer or the vide, so it´s not a big deal for me, if the bug of VD10 will be here for the next 14 days :-D ... But, still, it´s strange...

temp 06-01-2006 17:15

Grumpy, i didnt say anything bad about him, i simply can do without any more rubbish drivers getting installed thats i dont know wtf they do to pc, i have played these games for long time wirh no need for this driver or unplugging any roms, and i am on a Nforce mobo.

Most this is old news or very near same as other methods.

Simply solution, like me use a SATA hdd then you will stand a far better chance of beating SF.

XdaywalkerX 06-01-2006 18:44

i think ULI chipsets are better than nforce chipsets (for starforce protected games :D )... for the following reason:

look to my signature - i can start ALL of thoose games without disable or disconnect or hide anything (excluding pop t2t - only works on x64 OS)

but i've tested the games wich i owned again (other games in my signature was only rented)

Splinter Cell CT
The Suffering Ties That Bind
PJ King Kong
Trackmania Sunrise and extrem Addon

ur method works fine on ULI Southbridge M1567 (Northbridge is M1695).

VERY IMPORTANT IS A GOOD DPM INFO OF UR CD/DVD BACKUP!!! OTHERWISE THE GAME WON'T WORK. (with alcohol set dpm reading speed to low - with blindwrite use "auto")

i'll test the other games asap - and as i get them (huh... my english is so bad... o.O)

Nightmare 07-01-2006 03:06

It doesn't work for me!
 
Hi,
I did all that you write (@john486496).
I have an MSI MS-6712 V2 board.
I also have Daemon Tools 4.03.
Deactivating with VirtualDrive does work, my DVD-Burner is deactivated.
But when I mount my Prince Of Persia TTT Image (which is perfect, because I can play if I unplug my DVD-Burner), the game writes:" Insert the disc into another drive" (I don't know the exact message, because I'm German).
I have only the Daemon Tools device and VirtualDrive device.
And of course I have disable all emulations in Daemon Tools.

And that what VirtualDrive makes, is the same as I go to device manager and deactivate my secondary IDE-channel + my CD/DVD-Device.

What could I've done wrong??

Greets

!HaGaR! 07-01-2006 04:00

Daemon Tools V4.00 mit VirtualDrive Pro 10 Methode

Vorbereitung:
- Das Image des Spiels in Daemon Tools 4.00 mounten und wie gewohnt installieren
- Rechner rebooten

Spiel starten:
- Über das Tray-Icon von VirtualDrive 10 Pro in den VCD-Manager gehen und über die
Menu-Schaltfläche "Tools" den Eintrag "Disable IDE-CD-ROM" anklicken.
Die internen optischen IDE-Laufwerke werden versteckt und brauchen nicht manuell abgesteckt
werden!
- Image des Spiels im virtuellen Daemon-Tools-Laufwerk mounten und wie gewohnt starten
(funktioniert bislang für alle Starforce-Versionen, inkl. 3.5x und 3.6x)

Achtung:
- Um die internen optischen Laufwerke wieder zu aktivieren, erneut in den VCD-Manager gehen
und unter "Tools" die Funktion "Enable IDE-CD-ROM" anklicken.
Auf einigen Systemen funktioniert die Re-Aktivierung nicht reibungslos. In diesem Fall den
Gerätemanager von Windows aufrufen und unter dem Eintrag "CD-/DVD-ROM-Laufwerke" alle
mit einem roten "X" markierten Laufwerke rechts anklicken und "aktivieren" wählen.
Die Laufwekre sollten jetzt wieder in Windows zur Verfügung stehen. Klappt es immernoch nicht,
sollte ein Reboot des Systems die Laufwerke zurück bringen


Daemon Tools V4.00-Methode

Vorbereitung:
- Das Image des Spiels in Daemon Tools 4.00 mounten und wie gewohnt installieren
- Rechner rebooten

Spiel starten:
- ab Starforce V3.5.xx.xx die internen optischen IDE-Laufwerke abstecken (!)
- Image des Spiels mounten und wie gewohnt starten.


USB-Methode

- Das Spiele-Image mit Alcohol 120% brennen und die RMPS-Infomationen mitschreiben lassen
- Daemon Tools oder Alcohol 120% mit aktivierter "RMPS"-Emulation starten
- bis Starforce V3.4xx.xx mit Starforce Nightmare V1.12 die internen optischen IDE-Laufwerke deaktivieren
- ab Starforce V3.5.xx.xx die internen optischen IDE-Laufwerke abstecken (!)
- Die gebrannte CD/DVD in ein externes USB-2.0-CD/DVD-ROM (!) Laufwerk einlegen und Spiel wie gewohnt
installieren und starten


SFCure-Methode

Vorbereitung:
- Das Image des Spiels mounten und wie gewohnt installieren
- Rechner rebooten
- "SFCure V0.3 X64"-Ordner öffnen und "!setup.bat" anklicken. Die SFCure-Treiber wurden installiert.
- Rechner rebooten

Spiel starten:
- "SFCure V0.3 X64"-Ordner öffnen und "!start.bat" ausführen
- "Starforce Nightmare V1.12" starten, "Disable Node" und "Disable CD" ausführen!
- bis Starforce V3.4xx.xx mit Starforce Nightmare V1.12 die internen optischen IDE-Laufwerke deaktivieren
- ab Starforce V3.5.xx.xx die internen optischen IDE-Laufwerke abstecken (!)
- Image des Spiels mounten und wie gewohnt starten.


I know, this is an english-only forum. The above given is a collection of the common starforce workarounds written in german. Nothing which hasn´t been mentioned here multiple times before (except the first part which is more or less a tranlations of the first post of this thread!). No warez-talk or anything else! Maybe someone has the balls ;-D to translate it into english. I am too lazy for that 2day... I posted it to help the german users who often had problems to follow the starforce-workaround manuals.

Note: For all the manuals above you need a correct dpm-dump of your gamedisc and the original game/multiplayer/starforce-keys as well!

Hope I didn´t get a ban or something else for my post

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English translation:

The Daemon Tools v4.00 with VirtualDrive Pro 10 method

Preparation:
- Mount the image of the game into Daemon Tools 4.00 and install as usual.
- Reboot computer.

Starting the game:
- From the tray icon of VirtualDrive 10 Pro, go to the VCD Manager and click on the "Disable IDE CD-ROM" entry of the "Tools" menu.
The internal optical IDE drives will be hidden and you won't have to manually disconnect them!
- Mount the image of the game into the virtual Daemon Tools drive and start as usual.
(functioning for all Starforce versions so far, including 3.5x and 3.6x)

Warning:
- To re-enable the internal optical drives, go to the VCD Manager again and click on "Enable IDE CD-ROM" in the "Tools" menu.
On some systems, the re-activation is not without problems. In such cases, launch Windows' Device Manager, open "DVD/CD-ROM drives", right click on all drives marked with a red "X" and select "Enable".
The drives should now be available to Windows. If still no luck, a reboot of the system will get the drives back.

The Daemon Tools V4.00 method

Preparation:
- Mount the image of the game into Daemon Tools 4.00 and install as usual.
- Reboot computer.

Starting the game:
- starting with Starforce V3.5.xx.xx, disconnect all internal optical IDE drives (!).
- Mount the image of the game into the virtual Daemon Tools drive and start as usual.

The USB method

- Burn the image of the game with Alcohol 120%, along with the RMPS information.
- Launch Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120% and activate "RMPS" emulation.
- up to Starforce V3.4xx.xx, deactivate all internal optical IDE drives with Starforce Nightmare V1.12.
- starting with Starforce V3.5.xx.xx, disconnect all internal optical IDE drives (!).
- Insert the burnt CD/DVD into an external USB 2.0 CD/DVD-ROM (!) drive and install and start the game as usual.

The SFCure method

Preparation:
- Mount the image of the game and install as usual.
- Reboot computer.
- Open the "SFCure V0.3 X64" directory and run "!setup.bat". This installs the SFCure driver.
- Reboot computer.

Starting the game:
- Open the "SFCure V0.3 X64" directory and run "!start.bat".
- Launch Starforce Nightmare V1.12 and click "Disable Node" and "Disable CD".
- up to Starforce V3.4xx.xx, deactivate all internal optical IDE drives with Starforce Nightmare V1.12.
- starting with Starforce V3.5.xx.xx, disconnect all internal optical IDE drives (!).
- Mount the image of the game and start as usual.

john486496 07-01-2006 05:13

!HaGaR! I have the all same problems for my licensed VD10.
But the "Virtual Drive"-List is not empty: my virtual drive appears.
Insert and eject buttons are grayed,but you can image in VCD fromat.

As I said it would be interesting to test (!HaGaR! or antoher tester) the make image option as,it support starforce3.However as XdaywalkerX said,alcohol do already that with good dpm info..


Nightmare85,I'm afraid that this method doen't work for msi chipset.



For all people, I'm not responsible if this doesn't work; -)

Starforce is so complicated that each user have to face it with his own system! Yes,all tricks will be still odd-jobs without good nocd/DVD or IDE Jammer Daemon tools.

However,for this time,I 'm convinced that we can find more tricks with combining vd10 tricks with others tricks, for example, internet image option in VD10..

People please test all this possbilities!

prakash_tiwari2004 07-01-2006 06:49

anyone can pls tell me how make a image in MDF&MDS mode please,if its unlegal to ask this question then i am sorry and pls dont ban me from this forum

temp 07-01-2006 07:03

Nope its not ilegal to make a image of your LEGIT game, i did it to play Splinter Cell CT(3) without need for disk, you need to get Alcohol latest build, you can grab demo on their site. :)

http://www.alcohol-soft.com/

john486496 07-01-2006 09:44

Hi all!:)

Moderators, shall you transfer this Thread to "CD Copy Protections & Utilities" ?

It would be nice,thanks in advance !

Anyone has tested other games ,other possbilities?

Best regards,
John :p

!HaGaR! 08-01-2006 09:28

Problems with VD10...
 
!HaGar! again bumpinī this thread...

As I posted above I had the problem, that VD10 (trial-version) doesnīt recognize itīs own virtual drive as a virtuall, so it doesnīt allow to mount anything in it.

As john486496 mentioned that the image-engine of VD10 should be able to create working starforce-images, i decided to investigate more time in VD10...

First off, I imaged my Worms 4 Mayhem disc with the VD10 ripping function, but, as already said, I couldnīt mount the image because of the missing vdrive.

So I tried to add another virtual drive. Rebooted. Nothing happened! No new drive were added. Well... Doesnīt really know why... Tried the procedere once more... But again: Nothing. Just the "first" "physical vdrive" stayed alive in my explorer.

Then I swapped the discs in my DVD-Burner because I need to copy a file... And then it happened... My system screwed up and died with a bluescreen!
This was the first bsod I met EVER on this machine!

Well, was pissed and slammed the reset. Windows came up with checkdisk on drive D: (ntfs!)... Okay, let windows run through it... Welcome screen appears, tray proggies cominīup... and BOOM! System blowed again...

Next try... Checkdisk coming up again, traytools loading... BSOD. Different reason this time as the errorcode that something about calling a bad block...

Okay... Tried secure mode... Whouw! Checkdisk again... Welcome-Screen... Wham! System rebooted without any report...

Ok... So what to do... First off: Disconnected "faulty" harddisk. System boots up without checkdisc (sure!), but bsod returns again...

Disconnected DVD-Burner this time... Reboot. System runs without any problems now... Connected my burner again... BSOD returns also...

Ok, to sum the story up: Rebooted again without my burner to let windows stay alive... Deinstalled VD10 and (nearly) all problems disappeared...
Burner works again, all harddrives are fine... But I had to force chkdsc via registry to not check d: at each reboot - donīt know what happened during the first crash at all...

But it seems the buggy VD10-driver (didnīt work properly on my system from the beginning) screwed something up here.

So just use this software on your own risk!

HaGaR out

bluehoxxe 08-01-2006 13:40

Hi,

I tried exactly what is posted but it still doesn't work :(. I think too many DVD drives. (They keep respawning after using Starforce).

But I still thank you for your time into testing. :)

Cheers,
bluehoxxe

lucifur2k 18-01-2006 07:34

sf 3 testing
 
ok this is what computer i have and i cant get suffering tttb to work without unpluging ide from cdrom apparently having sata hardrives helps with beating sf3xx i have sata so how does that make it better. by the way i cant even play the game with original game loads until the menu then reboots my com any one know why. i dont know why some people put others down for posting in the forums to me anyone aiding in the battle against game protection is cool in my books keep up the good work. die sf die
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kingking 18-01-2006 08:42

pls helpppppppppppppp
 
help john486496 i tried your method with peter jackson king kong and it keeps teekling me inssert king kong's disc 1 into another drive and press retry pls help !! i disazbled the ide cd rom with virtual drive pro as it wasx said mouted with daemon tools still the same problem "insert king kong's disc 1 into another drive and press retry" help me pls i really wanna play this game and i saw your post i had some hope but it didn't work pls help also when i disable the ide with vdpro 10 i check my device mlanager and i see only my secondary ide disactivated the primary is still running but the avtual cd rom drives disappears they are disactivated pls help or any body that could help me , some of you said kin kong worked with vd po how did you do ? help

Joe Forster/STA 18-01-2006 08:48

@lucifur2k: If you need help with your original game, you're on the wrong forum; contact the publisher instead! Also, I had to delete your list because without the pH value of your urine it is not useful anyway...

kingking 18-01-2006 09:04

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if anybody needs the keygen for virtual drive pro pm me sorry if it's illegal to write this things here

Joe Forster/STA 18-01-2006 09:06

@kingking: Banned; you now have two weeks to understand the forum rules.

kooka 18-01-2006 09:25

i am encountering the same problem with king kong after trying the virtual drive pro it says an error insert disc into another drive and retry any ideas that could help us pls

Joe Forster/STA 18-01-2006 09:51

Guys, if you have filtered fake information and have collected confirmed and useful information from all around, please, post them into the PC Games - FAQ subforum, too, so that I can add it to the FAQ. Thanks!

kooka 18-01-2006 19:32

pl help i can't make king kong to work with vdpro help it gives me pls insert king king disc in another drive pls help

!HaGaR! 19-01-2006 00:11

@Joe/STA
 
Just wanna say thanks for translating my little workarounds-post ;-D

By the way: I know, itīs english only in here, but maybe the sticked guide-threads could be multilingual? Only thrusted, working tips and not editable fpr anyone. May help some people. What do you think?

mkay... gotta go to work know. have a nice day ;-D

SamFisher 19-01-2006 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by !HaGaR!
@J.F./STA - Yep. Sad, that they stopped the free one. Offtopic, though ;)

Well, VirtualDrive10 isnīt that cheap at all... Around fifty bucks.
But, Iīll have a try if my trial-download-mail will appear in the inbox...
Dammit, hate registrations for trialware...

Bye the way: Nice post, if it works! Thx for sharing!
But... Iīm afraid how long this method will face the starforce-updates...


UPDATE:
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Workaround confirmed with:
- Worms 4 Mayhem (incl. Update-Patch)
- Prince Of Persia - The Two Thrones

Used Virtual Drive 10 for disabling, image mounted in Daemon Tools V4.00

Motherboard-Chipset: Nforce 2
Before installing VirtualDrive 10: Starforce detected IDE drive and wants the disc there
After installing VirtualDrive 10 and following the guide above: Starforce checks discs and succeeded.

Fooling around a bit more with it tonight...
BTW: VirtualDrive10 gives you a fifteen day trial...

UPDATE 2:
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Confirmed Games:
- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (Retail)
- Trackmania Sunrise (incl. eXtreme Add-On/Patch)

UPDATE 3:
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Tested Game: Trackmania Sunrise eXtreme
- Software-Drive-Disabling via Starforce Nightmare: Detected, Starforce gives Error-Feedback
- Software-Drive-Disabling via Virtual Drive 10: Successfull, game starts

Re-Enabling drives gives a little error. While disabling the ide-drives, HardwareManager reports a deactivated Nforce-Controller. After re-enabling them, the Nforce-Controller is "enabled" again, but the IDE-Drives under the "Drives"-Tab is still disabled. Right-Clicking on it and "reactivating" the drive is successfull. Drive is recognized by windows and other applications (nero) again. Reboot was not needed.

Small hint: With SFN-Deactivated IDE-Drive the Virtual Disc 10 application reports an error when it tries to deactivate the IDE-Drive, but starforce will be cheated nevertheless.

Well... Something strange happened... Had the idea to test VD10s abilities to start starforce-images... But... VD10 recognizes its OWN virtual drives as physical ones... Deactivated Daemons Drives, but problem still stays the same. Added another virual drive with VD10, rebooted as requested... Same thing again... VD10s virtual one appears to be a physical to it... Trial-Limitation? Would be weird, though...

Any suggestions!?

i've nforce3 chipset and i'll try that it seems like working perfect... maybe somebody make a "hider" hides optical drives same as "virtualdrive10"... thing would be much easier if it would be..

kooka 19-01-2006 05:44

you all say guy virtual drive works for you how you make it work pls help

Joe Forster/STA 19-01-2006 08:42

@kooka: Don't litter with your off-topic questions here; use the "PC Games" forum instead!

@!HaGaR!: I believe NO ONE should even launch a browser and go online without knowing, at least, basic English! The world language is certainly not English (yet?) but the Web language is English. (I know German and French people - and probably quite a few other nations, too - really get pissed about it but, well... better luck next time... :D) Also, organizing not only the translation of already existing guides but also the maintenance of translations, whenever an English guide is updated, is a major headache; I don't want to bother with it.

(Damn, gotta start reading this forum. I've never visited it before... :))

Lilith 19-01-2006 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA
I believe NO ONE should even launch a browser and go online without knowing, at least, basic English!

I am happy to announce you that my mother (>60) launch IE and browse efficiently google, tavel agencies, ..., but never learn english. More, her english vocabulary does not exceed 10 words. This amount puts her out of the 85% of the world who do not even know a single english word.

Of course, she does not browse fileforums.com:).

PS.:feel free to fix my spelling, you may have understand that engish is not my mother' language!

kooka 20-01-2006 03:21

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why is my post off topinc aern't we talking about making games work with virtual drive pro ? and still nobody answred me about the error and i have a question does vdrivepro hides also virtual drives like the ones of daemon tools for example

Joe Forster/STA 20-01-2006 05:14

@Lilith: If your mother doesn't need to understand English web pages and she just browses through the national TV programme or some domestic travel agencies etc., why should she learn that language? That's perfectly fine. However, if she wanted to crack games, develop software, read UseNet NEWS etc., she won't be able to do a single step without knowning English! Yes, I was a bit harsh with my "definition" - sorry about it - but I guess you know what I'm talking about... [Edit] By the way, neither am I a native English speaker; see my Location...

@kooka: You're talking about problems with King Kong, a specific game, while this forum is about copy protections in general. If you need help with a specific game, yes, your question is off-topic here.

acal3000 20-01-2006 20:48

I am not English Native either I speak Spanish


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