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Pimpplayer51 04-12-2005 06:15

Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
 
Title: Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Version: 1.0
Developer/Publisher: Ubi-Soft
Country/Language: Multi
Media Type: 1 DVD
Copy Protection: StarForce 3.6.10.06(amir.dll,POP3.EXE) + Serial
Scanned with: A-Ray Scanner v2.0.2.3
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You have to remove all IDE drives to Play with your backups

Hellspawn33 26-12-2005 16:09

Hmm, is this a question or an answer?

If it is an answer, what is the question?

See you later.

dibdib 27-12-2005 03:46

If I disconnect all my IDE drives, then how am I supposed to have the disc available for when the game checks if the DVD is present?

Personally, I'm just going to wait until a crack can be worked out. I don't want Starforce on my laptop whatsoever, and I certainly don't want to have to disconnect drives just to play this game. The entire point to nocd/nodvd methods is that I don't want to go through this sort of effort to play installed games, I may as well carry around the bloody disc in that case.

Hellspawn33 27-12-2005 05:52

Hi. I dont think that there will be another way to workaround the copy protection of starforce than to unplug the drives. (Not yet)
I mean that you will maybe wait forever?
You must make a MDF/MDS file with alcohol and then you must mount these with deanmon tools 4. so it simulates a drive.
Maybe that is the answer to the question.
If you do not want to do all of this you can use the original disc. Its your choice.

dibdib 27-12-2005 05:56

None of the current theories work, I've tried them all. I disabled my IDE options through the device manager, I've tried every anti-Starforce program out there including Nightmare, and absolutely nothing works.

The game files are going to need to be patched to remove the DVD check and Starforce elements. There is just no other way to run this game.

Hellspawn33 27-12-2005 06:03

No, that is not true.
Of course, your MDF/MDS Files must be good.
If your DVD Drive is not supported by Alcohol 120% you can find a good MDS File on a german homepage in the internet. There is one (i know it).
But there is no way to work the game without unplugging the drives. Is is not enough only to disable them with a tool or thrugh the device manager.
It sound strange but thats the fact.

dibdib 27-12-2005 06:27

Hmm. I know that my mdf/mds are good, I made certain to rule out that possibility before anything else.

I'm not certain how I could physically disconnect the drive (and if anybody would care to explain the specifics regarding why this makes any difference, I would be interested in knowing) considering that I'm using a laptop. I really don't want to start taking apart my beautiful Alienware just to play some game with a damned protection system.

PajeroGeorge 28-12-2005 08:48

Hello to everyone!
I do all the test but nothing the Prince can't work.
I download the mini image i put it to Dt4 nothing huppend!
Sorry of my English!
I forgot to tell you i make an image ''ISO'' with DVD Decrypter and after i burn a dvd to have it.
I install the game from this copy.
What i do wrong?
Can anyone help me?
Thanks in advance!

PajeroGeorge!:confused:

dibdib 29-12-2005 20:31

Supposedly, you must disconnect all optical drives. I have yet to verify this since I'm using a laptop.

mesopotamica 01-01-2006 15:13

Scientific Explanation for why unplugging your drive is the only way!!
 
Hi people

I am new here and I have registered just for the sake of this damn star force that is ruining my joy of prince of persia 3 release:( !!

I have read all the comments here and I believe that I can give some kinna tip about this damn protection SF!!

The reason behind the fact that removin' or unpluggin' the IDE is the only way that can overcome SF protection is that StarForce works just like the device manager...just try it yourself and U'll C...when you disable the CD/DVD drives or the IDE through the device manager, it can detect them again if you enable them; so that means it is of no use doin' that through the device manager especially when U know that the way the latter search and detect the drive is the very same way the starforce does.:D

So once you can fool the device manager from detecting the drive, you can do the same for starforce; and ofcourse this is the reason why disconnecting the drive physically is the only way to break the protection.

I have tried all the starforce fuckin' tools and non of them worked cuz they act through disabling the drives softwarely not hardwarely...I also tried disabling the drives from the BIOS and the same result I got..:o

So only disconnecting the drive or a patch for the game is the way:rolleyes: .

Muyfa666 01-01-2006 22:23

mesopotamica: Not to flame, but what's your point? You say nothing about SF that isn't already said 1000 times. That's no help. As a matter of fact - nothing is easier than actually using the original disc ATM.

Pimpplayer51 02-01-2006 02:30

@all

wait for a crack!!!

the talent cracker of realoaded can crack starforce and securom 7 games:cool:

Hellspawn33 02-01-2006 11:26

I dont think, that there will be a fixed exe for SF in the near future.

You can see this, because its the same problem with the "King Kong"-Game from UBI-SOFT.

Maybe we should look for a way to unplug the powercables of the drives in a smarter way. Maybe to install a powerswitch on the front of the PC-Case to be able to switch the drives on and off without using screwdriver every time.

Muyfa666 02-01-2006 11:45

Reloaded did crack UFO Aftershock which have StarForce 3.6... so they are defintly on to something... :-)

!HaGaR! 02-01-2006 14:27

Well...
 
I´m tired, but someone found my repeat-button tonight...

1.) Hell! Use the goddamn search! Starforce is discussed in here zillion times.

2.) Read & obey: UNPLUG (not soft-deactivate your drives!!!) to run sf-games

3.) There are different level of sf-integration. A sf-game beeing cracked says
absolutely nothing about the "crackability" of another sf-games or
update-patches of an already cracked game.

4.) Use the search

5.) Use google

6.) Use the search

7.) Think and really try everything!

8.) Don´t spread wrong information in here because it doens´t work at your
system

9.) Use the search

10.) Read & believe: POP3T2T works with DT 4 and UNPLUGGED
(HARDWARE UNPLUGGED) drives.

Cheers & good n8.

@all dont be pissed coz of my aggressive post... but... when will they learn?

PajeroGeorge 03-01-2006 00:25

Hello and Happy New Year!
I read all,and i understand i must unplug all cd rom's or dvd rom's.
I made a copy from prince T2T i use DVD Decrypter and i do ''ISO'' file.
Also the DVD Descrypter make mds file.I install the prince from this iso file and i use the DT4 to make the installation.I use the mini image (POP The Two Thrones - SF3 Mini Image.mdf) but the prince ask for the serial and after for the cd it's not corect on the cd rom.
What i do wrong can anyone tell me please?
Thanks in advance!

PajeroGeorge!

!HaGaR! 03-01-2006 02:02

DVDDecrypter
 
only creates images without RMPS/DPM-Scanning.

So the created .mds file DOES NOT contain the required datas to fool starforce.

Use Alcohol to create such correct DPM-Image or download one from www.copybase.ch (note: seems to be down @ the moment, and I didnīt check if they have a POPT2T dump yet)

I guess, the above mentioned domain does not break the rules as it was posted several times in other threads. If it is illegal to have it in here, please change/delete my post.

Thx

PajeroGeorge 04-01-2006 07:43

Thanks for your help!
I'll try to made a new image file!

Thanks!

PajeroGeorge!

mesopotamica 05-01-2006 12:39

Ofcourse nothin'new
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Muyfa666
mesopotamica: Not to flame, but what's your point? You say nothing about SF that isn't already said 1000 times. That's no help. As a matter of fact - nothing is easier than actually using the original disc ATM.

What I really wanted to say that it is of no use trying to disable your IDE or drives through the device manger or the BIOS or whatever cuz still some people I can hear and read saying that they can do so.. and I was trying to convince them.... I know that there is nothing new in my crap:rolleyes:

Rynai 05-01-2006 18:46

Hmm
 
An easier way might just be to use either an original disk or to copy an original disk to a blank disk without creating an image on your hard drive. This actually requires the use of two drives, and one of them has to be a burner. I'm not really entirely sure if this would work because of disk serial number verification thingies that might show the disk as being a copy of another disk. The same sort of thing that might prevent two different copies of the game from one original disk from being installed on two seperate computers.I haven't actually tried this myself with POPT2T but I've done it quite successfully with other games.

Note: You'll need an appropriate program that burns directly from the orignial disk rather than copying it temporarily to your HD an then burning from there.


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