I know a great online game thats free to download and free to play on special offer until 2007 i am playing it now
Anarchy Online RPG

Conditions

*You can play free of charge until January 15th 2007. Should Funcom deem that server load or other unforeseen events will lessen the experience for paying subscribers the offer will be terminated at our discretion. The free version does not include access to any of the three expansion packs. Should you wish to upgrade to any of the expansion packs monthly subscription and client fees will be added


Your not getting all the game just the basic.

yeh that game is awful lol..the best free download mmorpgs are 'knight online' or 'silkroad online' or 'maple online' knight online is the best of the 3 games and maple online is only a 2d game,but they are all pretty cool (knight and silkroad are simular to guild wars)

Kinda hooked on guild wars until my dopey brother somehow managed to salvage my Dragon Sword


[grumbles]

yeh i love guild wars,i love the way it looks

my user name is ChromeOutlaw if you ever wanna party up :P im a level 20+5 warrior/ranger and i just started a new game with a ranger/monk lvl 9

Not long been playing it, im lvl17 W/R with a fiery hilt that used to be on me Gold Fiery Dragon Sword :\ (which did +50 dmg grrrrrr)

off topic?

not really off topic,maybe guild wars are,but the others aint.

@dabhand, when you complete the game you get a skill called hundred sword strike,and when you equip that with a max damage fiery dragon sword,your unstoppable! :P

Elite skill?

Dragon swords are crappy, thank rurik for making it the noob weap of choice.

yeh it is a elite skill dabhand

name a sword better kassad,the rest of them, aint spectacular either.

Fellblade, wingblade or flamberge.

There are different ranks of the dragon sword, with more or less bonus's.

Just because youve had a crappy dragon sword, doesnt mean you had the best.

yeh i got a mega dragon sword,found it in 'ring of fire' and i have never seen a sword better in game.

but even so,it aint a n00b weapon lol,you couldnt even use the sword i have unless you are around level 18-20 and have alot of skill points.

bare in mind im level 20+5 NOT level 20 meaning i have levelled past 20 5 times.

Acctually i have a 15% over 50% hp req 7 dragon, 30 hp 10% sundering, is it crappy? no its the best dragon you can get.

Can get better.

Only 7 req, thats pretty crap :P

Ive seen them at req 12 with max dmg, with some very good bonuses.

Lol, the lower req the better, req 12 aint cause no one will buy it, althought req 7 will sell for... a crap load.

so whats the problem then,you contradicted yourself,so you have admitted your a n00b,because you wield a dragon sword lol

The higher the req, the better.

If you have 12 swordmanship, your damage that you do with your sword is higher anyways.


The higher the req level on a sword the more it costs, and the better the bonus.


The one I was shown, had max dmg not below max dmg, it was always max dmg. Then your +dmg% over 50% health, health+40 in stance, health+30 always, Quick recovery from crippled. The guy wasnt gonna sell it for less than 120k

BTW I dont mean you get a crappy dragon sword and put on the upgrades.


I mean swords that are found in the state they are. Just to clarify that.

yer i agree dabhand,this guy is probaly confusing guild wars with super mario brothers.

lol

Wow your total noobs to guild wars, thanks for proving it. Req doesnt affect max damage, the damage of the weap and attribute does, A sword 15-22 dmg req 12 will do the same as a req 7, only the req 7 will be worth 10x as much. Thanks for proving your not as smart as your acting. Please stop making yourselves fools. Thanks.

Lol, 40hp in stance? 30hp always? sword? max dmg not below max dmg? LOL?
As i've stated, you guys just proved your know nothing at all about the game, i've played since the first beta. So please, stop responding, only making yourself look stupid.

Listen buddy, ive seen the sword with my own eyes, it was max dmg nothing below, and yes +40 health in stance, +30 health always, with the the other bonuses.

As I said he wasnt selling it cheap either.


And higher your Swordmanship the better your chance for criticals and better dmg.


Why not read the description for swordmanship when your in town. And tell us all what it says.


As a test, I had full swordmanship at 12 and went out into the wilds, avg dmg I had with my 17-23 sword was about 34 normal hits without skills, went back and dropped swordmanship to 10 and boosted strength, avg dmg I did with normal attack was 29.

Explain that.

Sorry to disappoint but a sword cant have 40hp in stance, only shields have hp in stance, or always, or while enchanted , swords can only have max 30hp always, please stop making up bull****.

"And higher your Swordmanship the better your chance for criticals and better dmg.


Why not read the description for swordmanship when your in town. And tell us all what it says."

Now your changing your story, you were talking req of the sword not attribute, just look at your posts. Ok dude your a moron, ive been playing alot longer then you, dont try and act like you know everything about the game, as i know more then you, obviously.

Fiery Hilt
Ebon, Poisoners, Icy, Shocking, Crippling, Cruel, Heavy Hilt
Barbed Hilt
Zealous Hilt 1/-1
Vampiric Hilt 2/-1
Vampiric Hilt 3/-1
Furious Hilt: 10% 9% 8%
Sundering Hilt: 10% 9% 8%
Pommel of Defense +4
Pommel of Defense +5
Pommel of Shelter +7 or vs Physical +6
Pommel of Warding +7 vs Elemental +6
Pommel of Enchantment: 20% 19% 18%
Pommel of Fortitude: 30hp 29hp 28hp
Pommel of Swordsmanship +1: 20% 19% 18%

All the possible sword upgrades, I do not see a 40hp in stance, so you must be talking crap, obviously.

Lets just say I have 16 swordmanship, and a req 12 sword max damage, and a 7 req sword max dmg. Both will do exactly the same dmg only i will be able to weild the the req 7 way before the 12.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/index.php just go here if you dont believe me (believe the truth, moron.) and just look around.

Do you enjoy calling people idiots etc, do remember this forum has rules and one of them is no flaming.

Anyways, as ive said ive seen it with my own eyes. Unless the guy himself hacked his own sword design into the system, which I totaly doubt.


Not posting the swordmandship wording? I do believe its in the manual also.


So what your saying is, once you get a certain req level theres no point getting higher? Why then do I do more dmg with my sword with a higher req?


You havent really answered those questions yet have you.

Please stop talking crap, Thanks. If you stop acting dumb and read your YOUR own posts your saying A req 12 sword will do more damage then a req 7, no it wont. Swordmanship increase sword dmg and critical hits, your making yourself look bad by asking me to post this.

YOU SAID IN YOUR OWN POST THAT AT EQUAL SWORDMANSHIP A REQ 12 WILL DO MORE THEN A REQ 7 AND A REQ 12 IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER, LMAO.
Look nooblet, login into guild wars and play the damn game and LEARN something instead of arguing about something that you have no idea about. For the love of god, THERE IS NO 40HP STANCE SWORD. Get over the fact it doesnt exist, no your friend didnt hack the game and make it, its not possible to. You were just drunk or high, or even both when he showed you the sword.

Please post a screenshot with the 40hp stance, 30hp always sword, if not then stop posting useless replys. Show me where it says at Swordmanship 16 a req 12 will do more then a req 7. No you cant prove those things because they are totally made up. Thanks for wasting my time arguing over something you were drunk when doing. :rolleyes:

Again do read the rules here about flaming.


I will have to catch the guy again, hes on my friends list, and ill try get that trade screenshot.


Why havent you described the swordmanship wording, you know highlight swordmanship on the skill points page, i.e. press H.


And if YOU read what I said, I said he could have hacked it, but I said I doubted that.


I am only replying on what ive seen, sure ive not been in GW aslong as you but that doesnt mean I dont understand GW, maybe not as much as other people, but I have noticed the dmg difference at different req level's. Ive tested that myself.

As for the sword, im only saying about what ive seen, and no I dont drink or do drugs.

But im not ruling out the possibility there is that bonus for swords, as it is available for hammers (I have one which gives me +25 health in a stance).


Again and this only advice so take as you will, dont resort to petty name calling its flaming and again as ive said against rules here. Do please read them.

i been in guild wars since day dot,and i agree with you dab hand and have seen loads of wierd and wonderful things..

hell i even saw a guy with a river drake as a pet,i searched for months to find of way of getting the animal,i read everywhere you cant,hell i still want one now i dont know how the hell he got it,and i only ever saw one once,right at the beggining of the game at the first river as you leave ascalon for the first time,pre seering.

at kassad,dude this was a pleasent thread,and you come marching in with a mightier than thou attitude,my point is,you have 18 posts,probaly 18 flames.

behave dude,its just a ****ing game and you are acting like its a matter of life and death.

just to clarify since the guy couldnt..


from manual on Warrior page

Swordmanship - Swordmanship increases basic sword damage as well as damage dealt by sword skills.


So therefore, more damage no matter the max dmg shown on the sword. So he is wrong.

If you could do that, I suppose you could have that Bull you have to kill for the mesmer second profession. He would be good at level 20 running people down lol

No you cant get a drake as a pet, no your all wrong, please me your in game names so I can teach you something instead of you talking crap.

DUDE LOL, seriously look at your posts, your werent talking about swordmanship, you were talking about req, I told you about swordmanship.

Ok look here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?p=794607

Please stop posting, you've just been burned by the guild wars community. You should of just believed me but no you didnt, your own fault.

You are indeed an idiot, your the type that has to run to your "pals" and have to tell them what someone else said in a quest to make yourself look bad.


When your talking about Req your ARE talking about the swordmanship when it comes to a sword, as its the level of swordmanship that would allow you or not to use the sword fully.


And if you READ the threads, you would have seen swordmanship WAS talked about. Dont sit there and try to be clever it doesnt work, I asked you a few times to say what swordmanship said, as you said it doesnt matter you would only do the max damage the sword had when I said more swordmanship better damage, but no you said no and was adamant about it.


So take your own advice and READ through the posts and not read what you THINK you read.

Oh and you also SAID, that health+ bonuses while in stance only are on shields, your wrong there also.

Http://www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/gw002.jpg

As you can see I have a low level 5 Ebon Hammer, its great for its health bonuses, Until I find something better. Avg damage I do with this (since im at Sanctum Cay) is about 40dmg with 12 Hammer skill, some monsters take more dmg than the White Mantel guys so I used an avg dmg amount.


I wonder if you gave them the link to this thread also, instead of just telling them what was said, since your intepretation leaves alot to be desired.

Thats not what he said, he said he seen and he couldnt figure out how, and I said "If you could do that". I didnt say "Yes you could do that".

Again your reading skills are not great are they?

ok...gonna try and clear this up

the higher the swordsmanship, the larger the damage you do, no matter what req on the weapon, but having a req 7 sword means you can do the 15-22 damage earlier then you could on a req 12, so you can spend points else-where...you do not do more damage on a req 12, you just think you do, but no..you don't, if you used a req 7 and a req 12 sword at 16 swordsmanship, they would do exactly the same damage, as long as they had exactly the same mods on them...

OK I just couldn't resist to drop a message here.

DABhand, you posted a message that said that weapons with higher a higher req. were better than weapons with lower req.

If your skill in the weapon mastery is less than the req. on the weapon you will do much less damage. If your skill in the weapon mastery is equal or higher than the req. you will do normal damage. The higher your weapon mastery goes the more damage you do, independent of the requirement on the weapon.

Kassad didn't post the "swordsmanship wording" because it's silly, everybody knows what swordsmanship does...

Um... Just because he didn't say the description for swordsmanship doesn't mean you were right about your a weapon with higher req. doing more damage than a weapon of lower req. (in equal circumstances of course).

I don't know about that hammer you posted, looks like a quest reward to me but I'm not sure.

Edit: ah Grim Weeper beat me to it.

Was found earlier in the game out of a chest, The earth dmg I put on it myself.

I didnt say I was right, saying Kassad is wrong :P

Too bad im not wrong.