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albyrock87 17-11-2005 11:29

Need For Speed Most Wanted - SafeDisc v4 - HowTo???
 
I've bought Need For Speed Most Wanted Black Edition, and I want to play it on my 2 PC simoultaneously! How can i do it???
The game is protected with Safe Disc 4.60...
Can someone help me?
How can I "hide" my "not-original image" or how can i "crack" the game?

Sorry for my bad english! :p

PS: "SafeDisc4 Hider" doesn't work... :mad:

Joe Forster/STA 17-11-2005 11:52

Well, buy another copy. Unless the EULA says so, you're not allowed to play one copy on multiple PC's at the same time.

albyrock87 17-11-2005 11:58

OK :mad:
And If I want to use a back-up cd to protect my original cd from dangers??? :p
How can i solve this situation?? :p
Thanks :D

XtremeX 17-11-2005 13:03

Its the same protection as Civ 4 so you should be able to create a mini image with Alcohol

noscript 17-11-2005 13:51

You can create a full image using safedisc profile in alcohol and then mount it into daemon tools and then use safedisc 4 hider - it works coz i tested it.

tomatomanz 17-11-2005 17:33

Hey there!, i tried (Alcohol) making image (settings on safedisk and safedisk 2/3), but it doesnt work.. it shows some error something abt "ABR field" when i tried to mount, what is that? :confused: .. i gotten the same error when im try to mount image (RavenShield) that i make...

Thx in advanced for those who replied :)

Cheers :cool:

Am Shagar 17-11-2005 18:22

NFSMW use SafeDisc 4.60 protection, so you can't make mini image for it, just maxi image, same for SecuRom 7 games.

To make a backup of the original:

Put disc1 in your drive.
Open alcohol latest version.
Choose SafeDisc 2/3 setting.
Choose speed 4x.
Mount the new image with Daemon Tools v4.00.
Play.

tomatomanz 18-11-2005 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Am Shagar
NFSMW use SafeDisc 4.60 protection, so you can't make mini image for it, just maxi image, same for SecuRom 7 games.

To make a backup of the original:

Put disc1 in your drive.
Open alcohol latest version.
Choose SafeDisc 2/3 setting.
Choose speed 4x.
Mount the new image with Daemon Tools v4.00.
Play.

I just tried that.. it doesnt mount... it message:-
"Unable to mount image. Invalid field detected"

Whats that means?..or its there any settings i shld know to make it work?..:confused:.

Cheers :D

XtremeX 18-11-2005 04:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Am Shagar
NFSMW use SafeDisc 4.60 protection, so you can't make mini image for it, just maxi image, same for SecuRom 7 games.

To make a backup of the original:

Put disc1 in your drive.
Open alcohol latest version.
Choose SafeDisc 2/3 setting.
Choose speed 4x.
Mount the new image with Daemon Tools v4.00.
Play.

You forgot about running SDHide ;)

junkano 18-11-2005 06:35

the fix is saying go to your *NFS Destination* /DIR but i dont have that folder

DJklooth 18-11-2005 08:54

Problem...
 
I have a problem......i mounted the image with FantomDVD and ran the sdhider but it didn't work. I was told i need to use daemon tools 4 to mount for it to work. The only problem is that i have Win XP 64 which is not supported by DTools 4....so im stuck ~80(

noscript 18-11-2005 10:04

the nyou cannot play ;)

Farshid420 18-11-2005 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Am Shagar
NFSMW use SafeDisc 4.60 protection, so you can't make mini image for it, just maxi image, same for SecuRom 7 games.

Any chance you can please tell us how to make a maxi image?

Joe Forster/STA 18-11-2005 13:09

There's a thread called exactly "how to make a maxi image"; next time, use the SEARCH button.

Farshid420 18-11-2005 13:16

Ohhhhhh I did:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA
Yes, Windows file compression should take care of the huge size of maxi images. But, remember, it works on NTFS drives only.


Sorry, but that doesn't say much about the process that I would have to go through in order to make a maxi mini image... Saying that windows file compression will take care of it means nothing to me, and probably to many people on this board... I would however really appreciate it if you gave a little more detail, and please remember that some of us do use the search button, and I understand that this may be a little off-topic, and I apologize, but it's not fair of you to assume that I haven't already... so please, feel free to elaborate on the other thread as well, but this time with a little more detail...

Kanalradde 18-11-2005 13:35

I tried to create a maxi image:
  • Created a normal image from CD 1 => image is accepted by NFSMW/SD4. :)
  • Zeroed out the data part => "Insert correct CD" :(
  • Restored the image => image is accepted again (wasn't luck or random)
  • Zeroed out just the content of the big ZIP file "0_compressed.zip" => "Insert correct CD" :(
The error message appears quite quickly, so SafeDisc shouldn't have done a CRC check.

Does SafeDisc check the data with a kind of spot tests? :confused:

Joe Forster/STA 18-11-2005 13:57

Whoops, sorry then, I guess that that thread needs a bit of update. See the "how to make your own mini image" thread then. To get a maxi image, just don't abort the image making process of Alcohol 120% (that would give you a mini image). Good luck!

Am Shagar 18-11-2005 14:13

@tomatomanz

It means your image is bad. MDS file didn't match with the MDF one.
Don't know why, maybe it's not the original cd you have..................



@XtremeX

Oups, yeah i forgot, it's cos my cd/dvd drives are almost always unpluged, so i don't need it. :)



@Kanalradde

New safedisc 4.60 check the size of the data on the disc, it's why we can't make mini image anymore.
But i never make a maxi one, prefer making a backup instead, i like to beat protection by myself. :D

tomatomanz 18-11-2005 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Am Shagar
@tomatomanz

It means your image is bad. MDS file didn't match with the MDF one.
Don't know why, maybe it's not the original cd you have..................

Cant be.. coz i tried making image of my RavenShield game, and i get the same error..

Btw, both my NFS : MW and RavenShield are original games :cool:

Any other ideas guys?..

Cheers :)

varkey 18-11-2005 19:13

anyone? somebody pls make a maxi image

Farshid420 18-11-2005 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA
Whoops, sorry then, I guess that that thread needs a bit of update. See the "how to make your own mini image" thread then. To get a maxi image, just don't abort the image making process of Alcohol 120% (that would give you a mini image). Good luck!

Thanx for the info bro, but how do you make that into a mini image then? Do you compress it somehow, possibly using windows compression as you said in the other thread? :(

Anymore info would really help here :)

Kanalradde 19-11-2005 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Am Shagar
@Kanalradde

New safedisc 4.60 check the size of the data on the disc, it's why we can't make mini image anymore.

I tried to create a *maxi* image, but the copy protection doesn't eat it.

n4pst3r 19-11-2005 06:12

there is a easy round this BUY THE GAME

Kanalradde 19-11-2005 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4pst3r
there is a easy round this BUY THE GAME

And then I can play without CD or image? :rolleyes:

n4pst3r 19-11-2005 11:25

if game companys intended us to play the games with out the cd then they would have supplied them with the game

henry 19-11-2005 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4pst3r
if game companys intended us to play the games with out the cd then they would have supplied them with the game


If God had intended us to fly he'd have endowed us with wings.

Disks are merely a medium for distributing the software, once installed it should be put in a secure place.

But this isn't possible as it is needed to run the software, not for any data on it, but to check that you have it.

So the point of this is to make it possible to run the software and keep the original in a safe place....not as intended.

Diranar 20-11-2005 03:16

Daemon Tools V4... have i more to say... NO

jhuk 20-11-2005 08:00

Im fed up with all these goody two shoes peeps crying "warez fiend hunt him down", unless the peeps asking for help admits he had a warez copy, you should assume its legit, after all EVERYONE uses warez, just not allowed to talk about it here.

Ok now ive got that of my chest, using a disk in rom tray alltime is so year 20th centuary like Star Wars Racer etc, i have lots of games and i cant be bothered to swap disks all time, i got 4-5 games installed which is dumb as i should finish 1 at a time i know lol.

Quake 4 new patch removes need for disk so did Unnreal 2004 Tour patches long ago.

If you got a big HDD like me and dont mind giving home to a 2-4gig image then simple make image of your game with say alcohol (im told iso buster or ultra iso will too) cause game aint protected that much for making copy yo HDD, its when you try to burn the protection makes a coaster, FarCry was first to do this that i came across, i had to back up my original (incase of lose/damage) keeping the ISO i made as data on a dvdrw, if i tried to actually burn the ISO as a game it would not install.

I have 5 games i installed as i aready have said so it would be PIA to change rom alltime, and no matter what any anal peeps say, the rom trays through time scratch the disks, i would have though times would have changed and media would be sat in tray label side down or a rubber /foam seal on tray to cushios disk (bet we have all ejected a tray at one time and the media is still spinning/skuffing on the tray.

BarryB 20-11-2005 13:14

If you install the New Daemon Tools 4 then Virtual CD hiders like SR7Stop and Virtual CD Hide stop working, at least for me!

You have to use the old Starforce Nightmare to disable your CD/DVD drives instead of the virtual CD hiders.

caki 20-11-2005 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanalradde
I tried to create a maxi image:
  • Created a normal image from CD 1 => image is accepted by NFSMW/SD4. :)
  • Zeroed out the data part => "Insert correct CD" :(
  • Restored the image => image is accepted again (wasn't luck or random)
  • Zeroed out just the content of the big ZIP file "0_compressed.zip" => "Insert correct CD" :(
The error message appears quite quickly, so SafeDisc shouldn't have done a CRC check.

Does SafeDisc check the data with a kind of spot tests? :confused:

Maxi images can only be made on DVD's "for now". I am ****ing around with the bugger to make a maxi image from a CD, and I am having some success. Expiriment a bit with what can be 00'd out and what not, you will see what I mean.

TonyTek 20-11-2005 15:25

i get a direct x problem, where it says i dont have it installed. i have direct x 9c so i dont know what the problem would be...it say i have to download the latest version and it closes.

any ideas?

-T

caki 20-11-2005 15:53

Contact tech support, this is a backup forum...

Farshid420 20-11-2005 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendari
Maxi images can only be made on DVD's "for now". I am ****ing around with the bugger to make a maxi image from a CD, and I am having some success. Expiriment a bit with what can be 00'd out and what not, you will see what I mean.

That's a little cryptic, don't you think, rendari? I mean, if you would be so kind as to tell us what's needed to be 00'd out to make a maxi image, we'd all be a lot wiser, and bugging you a lot less, now wouldn't we? ;)

I wish someone would just give us a straight, step by step, answer of how to make a working mini maxi image, and the tools required...

caki 20-11-2005 16:07

Do it my way.

Get a full image of a game that a maxi image is out for.

Compare the full image to the maxi image.

And congragulations, you can now make a maxi image with a DVD.

Its harder for a CD tho because the ****er checks for weak sectors implanted in the middle of the CD.
If you accidentally 00 out those weak sectors *bam* "Incorrect CD...".

So, pretty much, I am working on figuring what it checks for in the CD, and trying not to 00 that out.

kain976 20-11-2005 21:08

google sd4hide.exe

it works.

Farshid420 20-11-2005 22:46

Rendari, good point, and while that makes sense to me (I think) having had some hex-editing background, it'll probably go over other people's heads... is this the only way to make a maxi image? I thought it had to do with a really high form of compression, but if it's just 00'ing out, I guess it makes sense, but that's kinda disappointing...

Here I was, expecting some new form of technology for compression... I guess one can dream :D

A.c. 27-11-2005 10:54

I Got a question
 
I got a question what is the name of the file you have to mount image with d tools for nfs mw ?:confused:
Thx:D

Farshid420 27-11-2005 11:06

Not sure what you mean, but I guess it would be whatever you name the actual image when you make it... lol :)

Example: you_file_name_here.mds

Note: Remember to load the mds as opposed to the mdf file, or you may have issues ;)

caki 27-11-2005 11:08

Not for Safedisc. You can load both .MDF and .MDS for safedisc and not have problems because you do not need the DPM, which is stored in the .MDS. For all other protections, you can only mount the .MDS.

Farshid420 27-11-2005 11:23

thanx for that correction rendari :)


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