CRACKs missing.... What's happening with the latest games???
 

CRACKs missing.... What's happening with the latest games???

in the last month many games have been published and no-CD cracks are available (as of now), and they are not StarForce(123) protected:

MotoGP UTR 3
EA Madden NFL 2006
EA NHL 2006
Advent Rising

plus some 'old' big titles SF(123) games (last 6 to 8 months) aren't cracked (NoCD) even if some group cracked some SF(123) games (see 'ultima' releases):

Splinter Cell - Chaos Theory
Trackmania Sunrise

some good (or big titles) that released important (for playbility) patches are also without a crack, comes to mind DRIV3R 3

I think that the CRACK scene needs more man(brain)power and there's a new trend inverted trend, we have to support CRACKs programmers in some ways....

post your comments!!!

A big part of the problem might be that many games are pretty hard to make general NoCD's for. A fixed .exe is often more easy to do.

Also remember that for the scene it is a race and a NoCD might require extra work and can lead to a lost race.

The starforce version used by Splinter Cell is still uncracked and I think it will be for a long time to come. But I still have hope that Starforce will one day be defeated and thus no longer be the Ultimate Protection and therefore no longer used by publishers... :)

Supporting crackers will be very hard to do as these people are very often hunted by the different groups as the FBI, RIAA and so on. So any connection to their real-life names would make them easy to catch.

yeh i noticed to,i check back everyday for months and some never get done..maybe they are hard to do i dunno,but i tried to back up moto gp 3 the other day and had to use this program like the anti-star force ones called blax or something,and i hate all that. i go as far as mini images and cracks,but as soon as it comes to messing around with drives and hacking your own registry i give up.

im not actually trying to make back ups,im just trying to run my game without the disc cos my tower is in a locked cabinet to stop my kids messing with it and its a nightmare unlocking it everytime i wanan change disc..so i like the lazy way :P

I think we won't be seeing any NoCDs in the future. It's going to come down to emulation. The encryption schemes Starforce uses cannot be cracked, but if Starforce thinks its accessing the original disc/data, there is no need to crack the encryption.

then maybe its all down to dvd-r media and good burning software..maybe alcohol 120% might have a little trick up its sleeve...or then maybe not,its become so commercial in the last year it dosent look good.

the reason is because of the recent busts, of the flt people (fastlink) and the hlm (and others), that cut down the amount of crackers, and the new blood now dont seem up to the task, the protections are also getting tougher, thats the reason..

because of the busts a lot of other crackers (they are a very small amount of people..perhaps 20 or so 'professional' ones.. the ones who were in ims, flt, rzr, dev and so on) who didnt get busted retired because they saw what happened to the others that did and retired... losing all your equipment, ontop of legal fees, dealing with the police and so on is no laughing matter, be grateful for what you got from them, they did it for nothing, they made nothing from it and they paid the price for others that sold their work

oh and the encryption schemes starforce uses can be broken, dont believe all the hype, anythings breakable, it just requires skill.. that skill however is held in a small amount of people, who really dont give two ****s (especially after being busted) about your 'needs' for cracks anymore


just my opinion

well cracking is difficult. But it seems like the game companys finally have won the war. 3 years ago i'd have said yo can get a crack for every game and the following patches for it. But now, Starforce and all that ****. You can't even burn them anymore. Remember when CloneCD was able to copy every damn copy protected game? Thos times are over. And the time of no-cd cracks also :-(

You know why i use no-cd? Becaus it makes life easier. You don't have to search the game-box in you cupboard. you don't have to lay in the damn disc. It takes round 1-2 Minutes. So i just download a no-cd and that takes me 1time 5 minutes. And for the rest of my life i don't need the cd (only for patches etc.)

But those things like Star****, Daemon-Tools+Mini image
Are just ****! It takes 5minutes to set them up correctly EVER time you want to play (and hell we know there aren't even mini-images for some games).

So it's easier for me to take the damn disc and have the loud cd-rom making stupid noises decreasing my fun while playing.

oh and for the "scene" with their releases i see only this possibility:
get many new crackers to help out.
OR
Invest your time in developing the ultimate cd-burning software.
as we all know from your .nfo's you buy your games so just stop making isos but make images who can be burned with your new coded burn-software and which copy-protection will recognise as original!

By doing the first version you will please those like me who buy their games but hate inserting the disc.
By doing the second version you will please the kiddies and show the game industry that they are fu****

nocdcracks will always be ,just be patient and wait for the profs just to inform you EA NHL 2006 nocdcrack is available nogrp release . :)

Or you could work your way up to the top by learning to crack the stuff you
need... :rolleyes:

ppl seem to think that because crack groups are not intrested any more that we are done for....not the case atall,there will be 1000 groups in the future..ppl learning the same way those groups did,it is not rocket science,the best thing for crack groups now is to stop competing..and share there knowledge more openly and all will be sweet :)

nice little dream world you live in glenbo... it is a science, it takes skill, time and dedication and especially now with all the legal changes regarding reverse engineering i really dont think your idea of 1000 groups etc really holds much validity... as for groups sharing information, the precise reason groups dont share information is so that their methods / tricks / whatever aren't circumvented by the next version of the protection... ever wondered why there are very few (if any) public dumper/rebuilders available for removing protection?

lol so you are saying the current groups of crackers are going to be the only crackers ever? no matter difficultys,secrecy there will always be crackers/hackers or anything else to do with the shady world of internet nerds,because kids are becoming more clever year by year,they will sit back in a few years and laugh at our primative @ss's,you guys act like the current crop are the be all and end all. not so,if you believe that then you may aswell give up now. my only point was that they should stop there petty wars with each other and concentrate on there wars with authoritys and gameing protection etc. why have 10 pretty groups when you can have 1 exellent one? why? because people are to competitve and competition causes delay in this respect.
so no im not in a dream world,im in reality,meet me there when you find it.

Right glembo, you know more than everyone here, whatever, aniways, tottally out of topic, moved to chit chat as its not about a specific crack.

Ever tried to reverse a decent protection in a serious way? When done and having a nice "generic tool" (if possible) coded you really like to use it for a while instead of doing the whole session over again...it not getting easier and as I've pointed out a number of times before: The more info you give to the "public" the sooner the company get their dirty little hands on it and...yeah...expect a "update patch" coming out real soon...try your tool then...oh no! It's not working anymore! It can't do shít! All your unpacking/import fixing/API-stuff/rebuilding routines are worthless and you're back to day 1 again :rolleyes: That's why ppl should learn the stuff from the basics, not put all their hopes in "automatic unwrappers" and the groups.

Nuff said

no, what im saying is that there will be less crackers now who will release things publically because of the current changes in the law... would you be willing to risk losing all your kit and spending up to 3+ years in prison, as well as having to pay legal fees for your defence, and being sued by the bsa and so on just to release a crack so that the public can benefit from it? its far far too risky, think about it a little, look at the history of what happened over the years with the busts etc and now ask yourself why there are less cracks now than before

Yup, I know, I forgot to add the legal stuff :eek: The laws and the cops with their dogs are more than a hassle nowadays ;)

well maybe but that is moving the subject more on to piracy and warez users/creators rather than making a nocd patch which as this site states you are legally allowed to use,so if that statement is correct then really your blasts have no substance.

HAHAHAHAHA

hehehehehe

and

HOHOHOHOHO


All lies but was a laugh all the same :P

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where are the lies?

i didnt say anything untruthful i just gave a opinion.

how is me saying that competition delays cracks a lie?

how is me saying that you guys saying that what you are doing now is as advanced as our world and our computers are going to get and disagreeing with it a lie?

i think you should maybe re-read my post when you finish pubity.

why do kids when they have nothing constructive to say just make stupid noises and act like idiots?...man maybe you lot are right,maybe the next crop of kids are going to be stupid.

1. Perhaps you should look into the coders section and view all the threads.

2. Competition brings forward quicker releases than without.

3. Your talking pants cause your english.

4. And its Puberty, again P..u..b..e..r..t..y


Hehehehe this has to be the funniest thing thats happened today lol

Lets Break it down...


Hehehehe I know a few who are in mid 30's going on 40's. Not all are kids, although kids are coming through, but they do NOT have the knowledge and must learn like the older crackers who through the years gained this knowledge, nobody goes to University and learn how to defeat wrapped up protections.


Competition hastens things, each are competing to be the first therefor always working hard. Its like everyday life with businesses they have competition they drive prices down and better products all the time, if your own then prices are high and products originality lacks.

One group??? LOL yeah so much easier for the authorities to catch them, you sir are just numb in the head. LOL one group hahahaha
So yes your are in a dream world, probably called cornwall lol

so you are racist.

young.

stupid.

and you believe that what crackers know now,will never be emulated.

all i can say to you is...**** off kid and grow up.
get some culture little boy.

competition as far as cracks do slow things up as each company try to rush out a release first and by doing so release mini images and fixed exe's instead of nocd cracks to save time,and in the process alot of cracks get forgotten about.

im glad to see racism is tollerated here..i wont be posting any more.

would yu like to know i am also black? want to make a comment about that to?

LOL racist? No scottish and we love to hate the english..

And im probably double your age kiddo..

Again look in the coders section should be 4 below this section, and view all posts from begining, and goto page 2..

Maybe you will learn something, before you post something that makes you look silly. (That was advice for free)

Oh yeah Pubity!!! Why didnt I notice that before


/end sarcasm

well if you are double my age..that would make you 70 years old..so i have to say what the **** are you doing talking about computers?

Youve just banned yourself for one... Flames is not nice.


Again you never bothered to see what I know to what you know, by looking in that section...


Here ill give you a url to click to view the easy to learn ASM day 1 tut, maybe that will change your tune..


http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=69692

you have been flaming me over about 10 posts.

telling me i talk pants because im english...is that not a racist flame?

Doors to your Left... So said Gord


hahahaha


Also search for me name on nforce...

OMG why is it there... Does that mean im like I know what im talking about?? OMFG

Goto *** if you like, and youll find that GCW and *** are not that disimilar.

by the way
your trying to educate me?
and your 70 years old
but...
what kind of sentence is that?

Unfortunately the only help you need I cant offer you, its pyschriatic help for you young laddie.

You just dont get it, and you cant admit you were talking bollocks..

You came in, and start raving on about how you know the scene works.. Then along comes I who knows how the scene works..

And you got peltered for it, if you came in and said something like

"Perhaps a bigger group, or just the one group may have better chances in the scene"

You may have got a more appreciative audience..


Not that difficult to understand..

No, that is not the reason. Not at all. Without wanting to say anything bad about crackers or those who already were busted. There will always be ppl who just do it for this thrill of the possibility of getting busted. You know it has to feel damn good as long as you are out there and can think "**** them all i did that crack and they don't have a clue who i am". There will always be ppl who think proxys in US are anonymous and they could distribute their crack through them^^.

But what i think is the problem with "new crackers": it's harder for them to learn. The old crackers for ex. had MS-DOS with debug und text-only output.
They know what text is all about. But now? A kid clicks it colored buttons and sees nice icons everywhere. And then he starts a debugger or a disassembler and what next? TEXT! SHOCK!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! TEXT!!! what the hell is that??? No icons??? No graphics??? RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!

Alright those are maybe 70%.

And the others have the following problem: They want to crack their games like Splinter Cell CT. But they will have to begin learning with all the old titles from 10 years ago.
And that will take them some years. Then they will start learning Starforce 3 when Starforce 4/5 is already out. And they will never catch up. Because we all say it: Everything is crackable. It just may take a looooooong time.
Yeah but from new protection to another the time increases by a lot! So new crackers can never catch up.

So yeah i think there will only be the ppl who could crack (they don't do it anymore, do they?) and nothing will come after. Cracking is dead. Well you can still crack Shareware done by stupid programmers. But you won't be able to crack games anymore.

---------------------RIP Game Cracking-------------------- :D

Just think about one thing: Some years ago we had 80486 66MHz.
Not enough MHz for copy protection.

Now we have DualCore X2 4800+

First Core 2.400MHz for the Game
Second Core 2.400MHz for the Copy Protection!!!!!!!

So do you really see a chance to beat it? MUAHAHA no. We won!
We are the Game industry and we f****d u all!


:D :D just joking :D :D

but take the facts and think about them.
Is there really a chance?

Nice post, at least you have a good idea of whats going on :)

I enjoyed reading that :D

yes because dabhand says so.

Oh your sooo kinky......pffff

Thought you was going to G.B.W.?

what are you on?
why are you fake quoting me?

Nice try, but admin and mods will say I quoted you quite accurately..

I just dont understand you, even after you were proved wrong I offered the chance for you to learn something, and you threw it to the side...

People like you have no hope.

not atall,theres ways of explaining things.

i never said i was a pro.
i gave my opinion.

you however trashed my post,made racist jibes and have been all together damn right rude.

you are now fake quoting me,it doesent take a brain to do that.

Again I say this..

Admin will check you edited your post before that, and can see what was said. Again more lies..


Your original post stunk of big headedness and "I Know All" what did you expect a round of applause..


A couple of others have already posted against you on the first page, go back and read.. Also read your own post as a neutral and tell me how it looks to you?

they may of disagreed with my opinion.
it was not meant to sound big headed at all,i have no problem with people debating my theorys.

what i have a problem with is you.

being racist,fake quoting me and pretty much setting out to get me banned.

scottish,welsh,irish,pakistani..where ever you are from,you make a jibe at the way i speak and you call it 'BEING ENGLISH'.

that little boy,is racism. dig yourself deeper,please.

LOL you will look the fool when the admins say what I quoted was your post..


You were bigheaded in your post..

Lets see shall we...


lol so you are saying the current groups of crackers are going to be the only crackers ever? no matter difficultys,secrecy there will always be crackers/hackers or anything else to do with the shady world of internet nerds,because kids are becoming more clever year by year,they will sit back in a few years and laugh at our primative @ss's,you guys act like the current crop are the be all and end all.


This was funny, cause

1. Crackers, Trainer Makers are not nerds, most have high class and low class jobs, ranging from police officers, store handlers, etc.. Calling people like them and myself a nerd, is bigheaded.

2. "you guys act like the current crop are the be all and end all".. thats like saying Your all wrong and im right, another bigheaded statement..


Next paragraph (should have been but in same sentence)

not so,if you believe that then you may aswell give up now. my only point was that they should stop there petty wars with each other and concentrate on there wars with authoritys and gameing protection etc. why have 10 pretty groups when you can have 1 exellent one? why? because people are to competitve and competition causes delay in this respect.
so no im not in a dream world,im in reality,meet me there when you find it


1. If we believe that?? Why you the almighty Computer in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy? Is the answer 42? Not really.. Again Bigheaded

2. 1 Group? Its risky as if smaller groups arent risky enough.. Your idea doesnt work, this is not bigheadedness, I will put my hand up and say this is an opinion.

3. Competition, which ive already explained. If you dont understand what competition is and how it works, im sure MacDonalds would love you as a manager.

4. Your not in a dream world, but everyone else is?? Again Bigheadedness..


So you can see why even Luciel who is admin, didnt take to your post with open arms..