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coffin filler 09-04-2005 08:55

Swat 4 ( couple of questions)
 
Hi ppl. This is the next game i want to purchase (swat 4). After looking on CD-mediaworld it states its protected with "secuROM new". Has anyone here backed up Swat 4. (UK original shop version, not a D/L version). If so i would like to know if the UK version is also protected with "secuROM new" and if its also CD-ROM or DVD and im intrested to know which software was choosen to back it up ?(Nero,clone,alcohol etc). Before i buy a game i like to know if im going to be able to back it up etc. (I have children, I have learnt an expencive lesson in the past). Thanks.

kosmiq 09-04-2005 09:09

SWAT is protected with SecuROM v5 as stated on GCW.
I am not aware if anyone has succesfully made an 1:1 copy of SWAT4. However it is possible making a backup using the NoCD on GCW.
I can not make an 1:1 copy as my NEC 2510A can't handle it.

Thats easily done, copy all files from the CD's to your HDD and add the NoCD into the folder where you copied the files.
If you feel like you can make a DVD version while you're at it. :)
Check out how to do that here that in the CD2DVD thread here on the forum.

If anyone has made any succesful 1:1 backup on this one, please write here and help him out.

coffin filler 09-04-2005 09:19

@ kosmiq
 
Thanx for the speedy reply. I have sucsesfully made 1.1 back-ups in the past (with my old CD/RW drive) but have yet to try with my DVD-RW. As for your advice about copying cd contents onto HDD then burning onto CD (Thats a way i use frequently when trying to back-up the more stubon copy-protected games. (Many ppl critisize Nero but i love it,Its able to do more tasks than clone etc and i havent come across a game i havent been able to backup with perservirence. (excuse spelling mistake,never was a strong point of mine). I just want to know who has made a working backup (dosent have to be a 1.1) and what software they used to do it. (to many ppl think its all hardware related but the software used for certian games is just as important). Any info will be read,and appreciated..

Brainman2k 10-04-2005 10:08

i bought swat4 right away on friday. backed it up for security reasons. i used an rather old version of clonecd on my even older ricoh mp-7200a cd-burner. both 2 backup-cds of my german retail are working fine. no probs (i encountered so far).

btw: the game rocks! especially in mp. :D

coffin filler 10-04-2005 11:10

Quote:

i bought swat4 right away on friday. backed it up for security reasons. i used an rather old version of clonecd on my even older ricoh mp-7200a cd-burner. both 2 backup-cds of my german retail are working fine. no probs
Nice and easy thats what i wanted to hear. I got the demo and saw the game was good from that. I will be getting this game on monday or Tues. The demo is only S/P so im looking forward to MP.

Brainman2k 10-04-2005 13:41

the demo was quite buggy. but the game exceeds the demo in nearly every way (imo). the look and feel is just great. i hope that some issues are adressed in a patch soon. the mp is great, but lacks some functionalities one would expect from a tac-shooter.

but nevertheless......its so :cool:

Luci 11-04-2005 10:50

well if the game is like xbox i give it a 5 hours max(for me) to end the game

coffin filler 11-04-2005 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luci
well if the game is like xbox i give it a 5 hours max(for me) to end the game

:( I hope not.. I like the tactical shooter. I realy enjoyed "Rainbow six/Raven shield". However that to is a game that one can compleat easily. It all depends on how technicaly you want to play the game i guess. When i played through raven shield i continually re-loaded if me or one of my men was shot. I had to compleat it perfectly. What setting did you play it through on Xbox Luci ? I hope it wasnt hard. Thats something i do as standard. Play through any game on the most difficult option 1st to get a longer life out of it. (im a tight sod who wants every penny's worth). :D

Talus 11-04-2005 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luci
well if the game is like xbox i give it a 5 hours max(for me) to end the game

I didn't realize SWAT4 was coming out for xbox... :confused:

coffin filler 11-04-2005 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talus
I didn't realize SWAT4 was coming out for xbox... :confused:

According to buyit.com Swat 4 ship's 4/6/05 for Xbox. All the info it has though is PC related including screens, Even the case for the game is PC. Links here if your intrested. http://www.buy.com/prod/Swat_4/q/loc/108/201212112.html

Im getting this in the morning (for PC obviously). Thanks to all who posted in this thread...

ni9ht_5ta1k3r 11-04-2005 20:57

You can modify the SWAT 4.msi file so that it can install from a DVD instead of 2 CDs.

Luci 12-04-2005 01:36

well it's not called swat 4 but i believe it's the swat 4 of the pc version.

@Coffin.
i played it on normal but it was TOO easy.i was then(and still am(a real noob at xbox so when i want to point to an enemy it takes me about 4-5 secs!!!!!i lost 2-3 times when i couldn't find a bomb

@Talus
swat global strike team it's called

RK 12-04-2005 01:52

swat global strike team came out a while ago, so it aint swat 4

Luci 12-04-2005 02:16

maybe they changed the name man

coffin filler 12-04-2005 05:33

Actualy Luci i belive its a different game :)
Ive been following the progress of this one due to anticipation and its not as far as im aware a XBOX port.

:( :( :mad: :mad: My car has gone and died on me. Meaning i cant get to the store to buy the long awaited "SWAT 4". Seems ill have to wait even longer. Is there no GOD?? (because after this i dont belive in you any more luci..Phaa underworld god indeed. I tried to sell my soul this morning just so my car would take me to the store but it seems you diddnt want it!!!!)

unheimlich 13-04-2005 11:26

Hi guys.I have a serious problem with SWAT.Every time i quit the game my pc crashes and displays a blue screen with the message "IRQL_LESS_OR_NOT_EQUAL".And the really annoying thing is that the progress i have made in the game is erased and it starts from the beginning ? Does anyone know where the game keeps the saves so that i can minimize it during play and copy them in a safe folder ? 'Cause i can't seem to know of any other way to fix the problem...thanx in advance !

coffin filler 13-04-2005 13:29

Ok gone and got the game :D . Backed it up no probs :D
@ unheimlich. Just installed the game so once i have created a profile etc/saved a game ill post back later tonight (UK time) and tell you where the directory is. Are you using a nocd/fixed exe ? If so have you tried playing the game from the original disks without a fixed exe to see if your problem still occurs ?. Are you able to run the game from the original disk ? If you post again post as much info as poss so "we" can help sort you out.

unheimlich 14-04-2005 03:26

I'm playing the game from the original disc !! Actually i installed the crack to see if it helps,but nothing happened...I looked in the game folder for the saves
but i can't seem to find the files(you can't save,the game autosaves after the completion of each mission).
I think that my problem is based on a conflict between two devices of my pc.Maybe the soundcard and the video-card,sharing the same IRQ.But why does SWAT cause it ? Why other games play normally ? And why does it only happen when i quit the game and not during it ? That's what i can't figure out... :confused: :confused:

DABhand 14-04-2005 04:39

Sound and Video cant share the same IRQ.

Sound should be IRQ5
Video should be IRQ11

unheimlich 14-04-2005 04:54

Really ? I thought,something like that was the case...Anyway,thanks for the advice! So now i have to look another way...

coffin filler 14-04-2005 06:09

Well i came here to post back to you (as i said i would) but there is no longer really any point
Originaly posted by DABhand
Quote:

Sound and Video cant share the same IRQ
So your crashing prob seems to be related. So i guess this reply is actualy spam :)


Just edited this post as i had a burning desire to tell everyone who dosent own this game how good it is. = V GOOD if your into a thinking tactical shooter.

Brainman2k 14-04-2005 06:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by unheimlich
Hi guys.I have a serious problem with SWAT.Every time i quit the game my pc crashes and displays a blue screen with the message "IRQL_LESS_OR_NOT_EQUAL".And the really annoying thing is that the progress i have made in the game is erased and it starts from the beginning ? Does anyone know where the game keeps the saves so that i can minimize it during play and copy them in a safe folder ? 'Cause i can't seem to know of any other way to fix the problem...thanx in advance !

you read this on the official forums?

http://support2.vugames.com/vug/answer.aspx?ID=7255

unheimlich 14-04-2005 13:00

Brainman2k thank you very much ! I hadn't read that.I have an AMD 3500+ and nvidia's fx6800gt videocard,so i guess i have to use 61.77 drivers to fix it ! Thank you ;) :D

coffin filler 14-04-2005 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainman2k
you read this on the official forums?

http://support2.vugames.com/vug/answer.aspx?ID=7255

As you can see from my signature i to have a AMD64® Processor and a Nvidia® video card using driver v71.84 (newest) but dont experience any such probs :) Bless the powers that be

DABhand 14-04-2005 13:47

Not all 3000+'s are 64bit :P

coffin filler 14-04-2005 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand
Not all 3000+'s are 64bit :P

Whilst that is very true mine is ;)
I got it through the Processor in a box scheme.

DABhand 14-04-2005 14:09

Ill wait for the Cell and miss out the 64bit AMD's :P

coffin filler 14-04-2005 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand
Ill wait for the Cell and miss out the 64bit AMD's :P

well each to their own huh :p

fairwarning1912 17-04-2005 08:00

swat likes to crash
 
every time i load swat 4 without shutting down zone alarm, avg and spy bot i get the following error message below, when i do shut all three down and run the game, i can only enter the traing and first two missions in career mode before i encounter this error. I have deleted the .ini file as instructed and im currently running the game using the SWAT 4 v1.0 [ENGLISH] Fixed EXE from reloaded.

im running: amd 2500+ Barton, 512ddr 400 3200 dual channel ram, windows xp sp2 updated, nvidia geforece 3 ti 200 128mb (Version: 71.89 Release Date: April 14, 2005 WHQL Certified)

I have no idea how to get this game to run properly, any help?


No Label

Crash Time: 04/17/05 10:43:27

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1821 MHz with 511MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 (7189)

UserName: Frank
ComputerName: 1912IG2G0BQORV
Application location: D:\Program Files\Sierra\SWAT 4\Content\System\

SWAT Build Number: 31973

Access Violation caused General protection fault!

History: UObject::EndLoad <- UObject::StaticLoadObject [(Core.Class SwatEquipment.AK47MG NULL)] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='Core.Object.DynamicLoadObject' OBJ='SwatMPLoadoutPanel'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatLoadoutPanel.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPLoadoutPanel'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatMPLoadoutPanel.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPLoadoutPanel'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='GUI.GUIMultiComponent.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPPage'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='GUI.GUIPage.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPPage'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatGUIPage.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPPage'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatPopupMenuBase.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPPage'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatMPPage.InitComponent' OBJ='SwatMPPage'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatGUIController.GetMPPopupMenu' OBJ='SwatGUIController0'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatGUIController.GetCurrentPopupM enu' OBJ='SwatGUIController0'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGui.SwatGUIController.OnStateChange' OBJ='SwatGUIController0'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGame.SwatRepo.StateChange' OBJ='SwatRepo0'] <- UObject::CallFunction [SCRIPT='SwatGame.SwatRepo.PostPlayerLogin' OBJ='SwatRepo0'] <- UObject::ProcessEvent [Function SwatGame.SwatGamePlayerController.ClientOnLoggedIn () on SwatGamePlayerController MP-ArmsDeal.SwatGamePlayerController0] <- RemoteCall <- HandleStream <- UActorChannel::ReceivedBunch [(Actor SwatGamePlayerController0)] <- UChannel::ReceivedSequencedBunch <- Direct <- UChannel::ReceivedRawBunch <- DispatchDataToChannel <- BunchData <- UNetConnection::ReceivedPacket <- UNetConnection::ReceivedRawPacket <- UTcpNetDriver::TickDispatch <- UpdatePreNet <- ULevel::Tick [(NetMode=3)] <- TickLevel <- UGameEngine::Tick <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop->GenerateExtraCrashInfo [(GLevel: 'myLevel' PendingLevel: '(NULL)' NetMode: 'NM_Client'] <- MainLoop

DABhand 17-04-2005 09:52

Dude you didnt have to post that in two seperate threads.

coffin filler 17-04-2005 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand
Dude you didnt have to post that in two seperate threads.

Not two he posted in three :confused:

DABhand 17-04-2005 10:09

Ouch lol

dederon 19-04-2005 08:59

Why A-ray Scanner 2.0.2.1 dont detect protection in my swat 4 cd?

coffin filler 19-04-2005 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by dederon
Why A-ray Scanner 2.0.2.1 dont detect protection in my swat 4 cd?

Which CD are you scanning ? Only one of them is protected (cant remember 100% which one off the top of my head but i have a feeling its CD_1 . Once i backed it up i used the nocd straight away (to keep originals safe) so i dont remember which one is the play disk but thats the protected one). As for A-ray scanner i dont know. I dont use that one and id recommend you use PID (link here @ GCW).

dederon 20-04-2005 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffin filler
Which CD are you scanning ? Only one of them is protected (cant remember 100% which one off the top of my head but i have a feeling its CD_1 . Once i backed it up i used the nocd straight away (to keep originals safe) so i dont remember which one is the play disk but thats the protected one). As for A-ray scanner i dont know. I dont use that one and id recommend you use PID (link here @ GCW).

I am scan cd1 and cd2 ,but it dont detect protection(PID too).

coffin filler 20-04-2005 06:17

@ dederon. I take it your copy is a shop bought retail version ? Where are you from ? Different places sometimes mean different protection etc. Where are you and ill then be able to tell you what copy-protection it should have (swat 4)

dederon 21-04-2005 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffin filler
@ dederon. I take it your copy is a shop bought retail version ? Where are you from ? Different places sometimes mean different protection etc. Where are you and ill then be able to tell you what copy-protection it should have (swat 4)

Its US Retail version.

coffin filler 21-04-2005 13:39

When you scanned it with PID you scanned more than just the exe diddnt you ?. Did you scan the disks only or have you scanned the game dir once installed ?. When using PID you have to tell it to scan every different kind of format (dll,exe etc) (theres a drop down menu to do this in once you tell it to scan) and as far as i can tell the US is also protected same as UK (from googleing). If you own a bona fida shop bought and paid for version then my guess is your not using PID properly (all the features). Have you been able to scan for dll's or exe's etc ? Or havent you used that feature ? Try again with PID and if your still not getting the correct result (and its a shop retail product) post back here and ill have another look @ swat 4 for you and tell you exactly where the protection is ok. (as i cant remember off the top of my head).

xmido 21-04-2005 18:07

I did not read the rules.

Brainman2k 21-04-2005 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmido
can somebody tell me how to install swat4
i downloaded it and then burned it on cd's. when the installer open and i click install it says please insert disc 1. i tried also with daemon.

help i want to play :eek:

maybe it helps reading the board-rules. this forum is about cracks, not warez.

how to install? first of all: buy the game....


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