Modded PS2 controller lockout?!?
 

OK, I have searched high and low for an answer, and will finally post and see what turns up. I have a version 3 PS2 (I beleive) with a Mesiah 2 modchip installed. Here's the strangeness- there are some games, seems mostly EA games, but not all, will boot up fine(originals or backups, doesn't matter), but the controller gets "locked" so you can't press start to play the game- the game intro will ofcourse just play over and over again. I just had NFS Underground 2 do this to me today. Goldeneye and Killswitch did this to me also. My initial guess was that there is some code on the ps2 disc that can basically see that a modchip is in my system, and "locks out" the controller making the game unplayable. Anyone ever here of this? I have tried switching controllers, plugging them in and out during bootup, unplugging them altogether, to no avail. I hope there is an answer somewhere, because this is driving me nuts. Please dont respond with "get such and such modchip instead". This has only happened on a handful of games- bitch of it is, you never know which ones will do this. Installing the modchip was absolutely no fun, although I did it successfully the first time. There were probably around 40 some wires and a number of them had to be soldered to miniscule solder points. So, bottom line, nothing is wrong with the install. Thanks

well this will fix it....... get such and such modchip instead

Sorry just couldnt resist.

Bottom line is your install is faulty or you have damaged something (most likely the controller port riddon cable) else inside the PS2. There is no game with such code and the Messaih will boot all those games with no problem. Also... sorry just couldnt let this one go..... the messiah only has 23 or so wires to install...lol. The neo4 had 40 something wires to install, damn now that was a bitch of an install.

Good luck, hope you find the problem with the install/PS2

Well, if you think it's a faulty install, how do you explain all the other games that work flawlessly? If I were to test 20 games, 3 out of the 20 probably wouldn't work, but the rest would. I have been modding for years and am quite sure the job isn't faulty. I guess I could open it up and check connections, but it still doesn't make sense.

Did you just do the install or has it been modded for awhile and developed this problem afterwards? It sounds like a slight solder bridge somewhere.

hmm EA games, sounds familiar, Lol..

Is it certain games, like say THUG2 works, NFSU2 never works, etc.

Well, I don't have THUG2, but NFSU2 definitly doesn't work. Goldeneye and Killswitch didn't work either. I modded it about a year or so ago, maybe longer. I don't play a whole lot of ps2, so never noticed a problem until Killswitch came out and I bought it. Fired it up and got the controller lockout. This was the first time I noticed anything like this. Not every EA game doesn't work- the other Bond games work just fine. I just duped the newest Legends of Wrestling, and that worked fine, so I don't know. Iknow I don't have a pinched controller cable or anything, because I just recently installed the ps2 guts into one of those clear cases. By solder bridge, you mean when solder basically makes contact with the pin next it that you didn't intend to have soldered right?

hmm well it might be that a conection is coming loose, so check all your soldering.

But wait till LUFC Fan comes online as he is using the same chip, cus it might be a new form of protection but I doubt it.

Disable the mod and play orginal see if that works.

I have a messiah 2 and all the above games and have no probs here all play perfectly

go over your install. Try the games with the chip off aswell

Yeah, those games are fine...

I've had a sort of similar problem with the xbox.. it happens for different games at different times.. You'll have to go through the entire intro before you can start the game. A reset fixes it for me or a couple resets.

You should probably at least open your ps2 and take a very good look a good look at the board for any small mistakes.. and check the vias.

Are you using original PS2 controllers? I have a couple of games that do the same thing that you're seeing if I use PSone controllers.

Oh yes, good point!

Yeh thats a good idea, test them theories out first. If no luck.. Its your install.

I use Sony controllers, so that's not it. I have also tried resets with no luck. I have also tried the originals from the backups and am still getting the same controller lockout issue. I also started the system in "no-modchip mode", with no change in issues. Seems like I am going to have to check the install. You know, if this controller issue happened with everygame, it be a no brainer, but when it happens to only a few games, that's real odd. That's the million dollar question- why only a few certain games do this.

Thats not what Popeye was stating. He wasn't talking about third party controllers. There is a difference between the PSX ( PS1, Playstation, i.e. not the PS2) controllers other then the color. He is saying that if you us a PSX controller with your PS2 you might get the issues you are having with some games. In fact I rememder something about this myself.

try checking the ribbon cable.

Yeah, the PS2 controllers (Dualshock 2) are analogue (enabling them to be pressure sensitive). PSOne Dualshock are digital pads (i.e. you either move or not). Most PS2 games require the analogue pads, hence the reason why some games appear not to work with a PSOne controller, but with a PS2 controller, things are fine...

Just a follow up, Medal of honor is one such title that will not allow you to start the game with a PSX controller attached.....I nearly pulled my hair out with that one....

You guy's called it! Went out and bought a SONY PS2 controller, as I couldn't find the one the system came with. Plugged it and the games that gave me the controller lockout are now working fine. Thanks much for the help. Not sure I would have ever thought to plug in a PS2 controller, as I thought they were all the same- atleast they look identical. Good thing, as I was ready to break down the system and check the install. I just knew it wasn't the install, but really had no other direction.

lol, glad it worked out.

Player 2 control doesnt work
 

I have a v7 with a duo2se tried nfsu2 works fine 1 player but wont allow use of the start button player 2. Put in Fifa 2005 two player works fine.