is there a tutorial
 

just wondering if it's safe now for people in the fileforums to put a tutorial on how to backup ur gamecubes. cause i would like to know some information on how to get started on backuping my games.

I say its cool as long as there is no refrence to pirated images. Also the tools have to be freeware.



Tyler!

so tyler...do u know of any tutorials on how to backup a gamecube game using only freeware tools? cause i hear all these people talking about how they backuped their games and so forth and i just wanna jump on the band wagon here...haha :D and learn as much as i can from this.

Actually Im in the learning stages of this myself. I may be looking for someone that is very knowledgable in the GameCube section to help moderate and bring up the GameCube section of FileForums.




Tyler!

well i hope someone comes by and spreads the knowledge onto us...haha. all i know is that u need to have the broadband adapter, cat5(of course) and some software, and this is the part where i start to get confused. and also is cubesoft phoenix freeware?

well the stuff you need to back up gamecube games are

1. PSO(Phantasy Star Online The Game)
2. BBA(Broadband Adaptor)
3. Ethernet Cable
4. PSUL 1.1/PSOL 2.0 with the ripper.dol or just CubeSoft Phoenix v2.1

Just connect the ethernet cable to your BBA and start up PSO, start up either Psul/Psol with the ripper.dol or just use the Phoenix 2.1. In Phoenix just go to the "Backups" Section, pick a location for the ISO you want to make and hit begin. Then go sign online with PSO, on the TV screen it should be red and telling you to open your gamecube lid and put in the gamecube game you wanna rip within 10sec, then close the lid and wait around 53min for it to finish backing up.

*note this simply guide is for people who already config PSO to connect to their PC, if not read below*


"Fire up your copy of Phantasy Star Online and head on over the to options menu. Choose network option, provider option, and then yes to go into the network configuration screen. When you are at the configuration screen select network setup and choose "manualy set an IP address". Press the next button and enter 192.168.1.32 for the IP address, 255.255.255.0 for the subnet mask, 192.168.1.100 for the default gateway, and finally 192.168.1.100 for primary DNS. After entering in the info press next and save your settings to memory card"- Copy from Max Console.

from reading this tutorial it doesnt sound too hard to get it going then. but what does PSUL and PSOL stand for? could u just have cubesfot phoenix for everything except for the networking stuff?

where can we get the Phoenix prgram?

nevermind i found it

so does cubesoft phoenix do all the things that the psol and psul do or do u need cubesoft phoenix and either psol or psul?

Cubesoft Phoenix will do all the stuff, its like a all in 1 program. You could use Phoenix if you cant find PSUL or PSOL. PSUL and PSOL are the 2 programs that trick PSO to connect to your PC instead of going online with PSO. Yhey are not needed if you gonna use Cubesoft phoenix since it will be included inside the Cubesoft Phoenix program.

so in other words all i need is cubesoft phoenix even for setting up ur network settings even without Phantasy Star Online?

yes if you wanna use the Phoenix program u could use that to back up your games but u still gonna need PSO to connect to your PC.

oh ok now i get it..i need phoenix and PSO. i thought i just needed phoenix for everything including for the network settings. i guess now i have to fork out some more cash to purchase PSO :p

Check out www.maxconsole.com for tutorials

I sure wish that there was an easier way to find this elusive Phoenix program.... It sure is too bad that it is so hard to find.... If only someone would tell me... that would be so much easier.

has anyone here already backed their games and if so how long on average does it take for the whole process?

around 52min for each gamecube game.

thats not too bad then. and how do u play ur backups? do u use cubesoft phoenix to load the game and stream it from ur pc to ur gamecube?

yes, I use the cubesoft phoenix to load up and steam the game from PC to GC

to stream ur game to the GC, all u do is turn on ur GC and load the game image in cubesoft phoenix. do u need PSO to stream the game?

yes, you need pso inside the gamecube to steam, backup your games.

so let me get this straight.....u need the cubesoft phoenix to backup ur games and too stream them from ur pc to the GC?

yep.

its kinda funny that u need to buy another gamecube game in order to backup ur original games :p .

I can't get the backup ripping process to work on Phoenix 2.1. My game freezes at 100% and nothing else happens.... Then if I try to load the game it freezes right after the "Loading" screen.


HELP!

give it time, once its at 100% its still finalizing the iso, which will take some time.

I tried leaving it on for several hours and still nothing. I'm going to try your advice and leave it on overnight. I don't think it'll work however, since I use NetLimiter to view and control my network traffic, and I can't see any exchange of data between my GC and my PC.

I'll post again once I have more info.

Ok, I left it on overnight and nothing happened. I use a piece of software to view my network traffic, and as soon as Phoenix reaches 100% my network speed from the GC drops from 289kb/s (or so) to 0kb/s, but Phoenix continues to send 4b packtes to the cube every few seconds as if waiting for a reply. After leaving it overnight and noticing this communication, I unplugged the cable to my GC to see if Phoenix would recognize that the connection was dropped. Guess what? It didn't. Therefore, it is safe to assume that after the ripping reaches 100%, Phoenix stops communicating with the GC and waiting will do nothing. It just sits and waits for the GC to send it more data, and until it receives whatever little data it is looking for, Phoenix won't finalize the .gcm or .iso, which is why the backup file doesn't work when I try to load it.

hmm.. if you still having problems with the phoenix ripper, you could try the original ripper.dol btw what game you trying to rip

That's a good idea, I could just try ripper.dol. I'm not sure how to use it or where to find it, but that is a different can of worms. I can worry about that later. (feel free to save me the trouble of looking)

I'm trying to rip random games, just to learn how to do it so that I can teach people everywhere that this is possible. The games I tried so far were Zelda:WW, SprSmshBro'sMelee.

Because it is so difficult to get all the information I need in one place, it is extremely hard to learn how to do all of this. I'm basically trying to organize a small manual that explains everything from a-z about GC loading and ripping. I'm sick of having to be a member of multiple forums, having to talk to iliterate people (some people have 0 grammar skills), having to read hundreds of posts to get very little information, having to click on other people's recommended links and getting trojans, having to learn multiple languages to get to the multiple useless webpages, and my list can go on. I know that these difficulties are shared by everyone here, but this does not have to be so. I can either wait for one of you to do it (yeah, right), or I can just do it myself and do it right, in proper English, and with sentence structure and logical reasoning. Maybe my efforts will be copied by others, and we can do away with having 300 posts that talk about the same problems. Maybe I'll even publish the damn thing and sell it to the underground community. Bottom line, this system of searching is inadequate, and I'm gonna do my best to fix it.

lol, maybe i should have explain it more. the ripper.dol is the tool phoenix is using to copy games. its that red screen you see on the TV screen when u wanna rip games. so i'm saying instead of using the phoenix to load the ripper.dol you could simply use PSUL or PSOL. btw when you was ripping those games did u set phoenix to save as .gcm or .iso? saving as .gcm seems to have some problems in phoenix, same type of problems u having. hmm.. try saying as a .iso then try again? or just use psol or psul + ripper.dol to rip.

I tried saving as both gcm and iso; they both give the same problem at 100%. I can't imagine it's a network problem if it transfers the data all the way until the end.

I'll try ripping the long way, without Phoenix, and see if that works. I can write up little .bat programs that will help me keep it simple.



Thanks a lot for your help. I'll come back here and post my results.

how much is the adapter for the gamecube cause im gonna start trying this backup tutorial out now :D . i already put down the cash to buy Phantasy Star Online already, and the ethernet cable. and i also have a hub(switch) so i know it shouldnt be a problem to connect either :)

I could not find one in stores so I ordered mine from nintendo on the link below for $42.05 USD includeing shipping and tax also some say crossover cables work better than hubs I dont relly know thats just what I herd











http://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs...ategoryDisplay

i've never had much luck with crossover cables but with my hub, i've never had a problem as of yet with it.:) so around 42 bucks is the standard (average) price for the adapter then?

$35 for a broadband adaptor and if you got a hub, no need for crossover cables. good luck

so where is that price for the broadband adapter good at?

that price good at any store that sells it or u could try online at places like ebgames.com, gamestop.com, store.nintendo.com. the last place u would go to get it is ebay.com. they selling them around $40-60

cool..im gonna check out those online stores then and get one :)