Messiah is a rip off
 

Messiah is a rip off
it claimed v9 support but the only support is to kill your new ps2 now thay claim a new chip with v9 support v1.32 so why are we to believe this and all of you who have paid good money for the new v1.31 chip under this false claim are now ask to pay more money for there next chip. so are you going to replace the bad chip Messiah team i don't think so you mail them no answer you look on there web site no update no any think. so you have ago at charlie_ps2 but he dont know no flame to charlie hes a good guy but i have had it with this chip and will not be getting or supporting this team any more there bad soif you have a v9 ps2 dont buy Messiah look any were els but not a Messiah

This is why you wait for reviews of chips before buying.

if uve fed up with the messiah 2 get a mars 2 i put a pic on here for u the install was done by hull_chipper he sent me some photos go give him a bell by pm'ing him there is another great chip like the messiah2 its called smartchip does the same as messiah 2 but quicker and cheaper go to www.ukmodchips.biz

Seaneyb

yeah erm if you want the full size picture email me its only 80kb why is it this forum file attachment is so low

you are missing the point

if you dont like messiah change company its not there fault if the 1.31 isnt compatable with all v9's wait a few weeks and get 1.32 or get a mars 2 or smartchip SIMPLE!

did you read the post

YES FFS!

i was stating that there are other chips on the market that do the same as messiah 2

this is my point it states that it dos so it should you don't claim a thing that don't do what it says it should

lol 1.31 was repoted as working on version that wre available,how can they gaurantee what isnt released
as for killing the ps2 lol evidence??

there much evidence of mars 1 killing ps2 but not the messiah

lol fixit were u get your info?
guichi???????????

look mrfixit mate your info must be wrong dust knows everything about messiah hence the name and the picture same as charlie_ps2 it cannot kill your ps2 just wait till 1.32 is released as dust said in another thread one of the v9 consoles has already been fixed also so has the 18000 jap console. Not too long oh and by the way all mod chips slowly kill your ps2 (if you use it wrong that is u gotta treat it right)

Seaneyb2003

evidence http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showth...threadid=16564
http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showth...threadid=16552
http://www.ps2newz.net/forums/showth...threadid=16587 just a few
its all over this forum and all the others the chip don't work in most v9 and no i am not asking them to gaurantee what isnt released just to make it work in what they say it does v9 all inclueding 50003 uk pal black and as for the comment just wait till 1.32 but i have 10 m2 as it is that were got for v9 50k3s that i cannot install because of this charlie_ps2 said he ain't selling the 1.31 no more until this is sorted out and yes the 1.32 i hope will work for the uk then i can get back to work

Ok youve heard rumours then fine!

but guess what could you make a mod chip up to the same standards as them huh? i think no is the answer. Do you know how long it take to design and build a working chip?Doubt it.

The messiah team are one of the leading manufactures in mod chips they have made a wide choice of chips messiah 1 messiah 2 and some xbox chip carnt remember what its called but still as we speak there are reworking the code so for people like you to bitch about a mod chip which i think is one of the greatist oh and that ps2news forum is crap FILEFORUM RULES!:)

Seaneyb2003 :D

seaneyb2003 what is with your licking butt of messiah? u work for them? you still dont get the point do you? The advertising is wrong, selling this chip as a V9 support is wrong. Taking people`s money for a chip that doesn`t do what is says and what they say is wrong. so I say youre wrong in what you say and if I wanted to I could put my skills to a chip but I payed for one , other people have paid for chips, they have taken the money so read the mails understand them and if you dont get a dictonary and learn english. That is all.

lol they dont work in certain v9

your claim was they were killing the ps2

ps i not had 1 uk v9 yet that wont work,all been silver done no black

dust i am not claiming anythink i have 2 black one done BY me it worked for about 5/6 min then just black screen now this was a ps2 out of the box so thinking it might be me i got a mate to do one again new out of box the sam thing. in NZ thay had same thing 3 black not working after about the same time and there is more so yes i stick by my first point don't advertise when it don't do it but wait the new m.2 v1.33b might not be the killer like it littal brother and dust respect to you i see your install pic v9 ss looking good i shoude of got an ss

ps do Messiah works for sony thay bring out a chip that ups the kill rate then after say don't be pissed here the new one this one works

hehe work for sony up the kill rate


seriously sorry to hear this,5-6 mins black screen,not seen it here

u still got the ps2 with chip installed obviously not as u would have tried removing the chip

have u got the chip in question???

i am not the m2 team ,uu didnt buy them from me,but i willing to take a look see what i can find,if i can find fault with the chips i contact hdl for you, hmm were did u buy them from

if not directly from m2 team then you need to send to your supplier

was it on a standard actel or the actel pro version??

mine have all been standard actels,

this is not a dig at u as i have no idea who you are,how good your soldering skills are


but i been expecting problems with the way the cd/dvd pionts are now,people struggled enough with the bios

sorry dust yes still got them and the chips work fine on older ps2 a little funny on v7 but do work but i have found that the black ps install blows the fuse to the 12v focus,sled,tracking ic so i took the chips out i have about ten m2 and about the same in ps2 i fix the fuse and they work ok but you see my point it looks like iwill have to get the dms when it comes out


thanks for your offer dust your one of the good guys


mrfixit
ps was it on a standard actel yes all of them
but i been expecting problems with the way the cd/dvd pionts are now,people struggled enough with the bios i posted about this point pins or via's i like your pins looks neat and tidy but with the right tools via's are good to

Hi Mr Fixit

For the benefit of others, they should know that you've splashed this on PS2Newz as well.

The Messiah 2 marketing is done by me (with Dust in the wings!). I've not made a single false claim. A whole load of 5000xs in ALL countries work with Messiah 2 v1.31.

Some reports of 50004 and 50001 not working have been taken seriously. The Messiah 2development team have acquired these models. They haven't even bothered to put v1.31 into those models; they've simply read the necessary auto working. It took a couple of weeks for various reasons I won't go into.

To come right up to date, we have been in e-mail exchange about the very unsatisfactory reply you received form a so-called Messiah 2 support source (not me).

I've contacted [email protected] (whom I know very well) and they will explain to me who those [people are who so rudely replied to you and I'm certain it won't happen again.

As for Messiah 2 blowing any fuses - if correctly installed it can't blow any fuses. It doesn't connect to any lines that could blow the sled fuse. A solder sliver or some other mis-install or misalignment of the cables would do that.

If I can be of any further help, it'll be my pleasure and I'm sorry you've had problems.

But misinformation has NOT occurred.

For the benefit of others, they should know that you've splashed this on PS2Newz as well.well I said I would and it got results the position is clear.
So that your decision on the matter claiming that the mail I got was not true and that my complaint is not the case, but, you mailed me at last stating wait for the new version 1.33. Now I am willing to wait for this chip and hopefully has satisfactory results. I did not say or have never stated that you or dust2dust has advertised any different on the position of this chip, BUT, all websites that sell chips here UK, China, Europe and so forth make the position of the Messiah as being all versions. Their information was given to them by the Messiah team. I understand that the Messiah team had limited test rigs at the time of this coming for sale. The mail that I got was true and not sent by you. I think I have made my position clear and made it clear to others that this version of chip should be only for older versions. Thanks for all your help and the Messiah team for clarifying the position as to date. Look forward to the new chip Charlie I will mail you about it. Last point, if it wasn`t for the retailers then saying all versions then this problem would not have arose and hopefully the advertisment on the new chip will show this. Thanks
Mrfixit

Mrfixit

Yes - the point you make as I've extracted it is valid. But the info used by people on their websites comes principally from my announcements. What they then make of it on their web sites is down to them.


As to the test rigs - you are partially well informed! However I remember very clearly talking to the Messiah 2 developer when he gave me the first (literally) handbuilt v1.31 to test - he said that he was laboriously running it through ALL the regression tests.

The v9 test rigs weren't an issue at all. In fact we actually built them for him. he got the May 2003 version of v1.31 running on the replacement 50000s same day as we gave hinm the rigs.

The issue, as I've said elsewhere, was that at the time of v1.31 release, he only had the 50000 to test - no other v9 model. We immediately sent a sample to test in Australia and that worked - meaning that 50003 and 50004 would work too - and they did. So the v1.31 was released.

Then Terry at Foundmy reported that 50001 didn't work. Actually - nobody else (so far as I recall) said v1.31 didn't work on 50001 based on their tests - but a number of people said that it actually DID work.

Then a number of European dealers reported that v1.31 didn't work on 50004 as then available. So we got a couple of these in and re-auto-configured the Messiah 2,. v1.33 is the result.

The community has had regular reports from me on behalf of the Messiah 2 team; I can't do much more than be open with the community.

Anyway, we are in background communication and everyone should know that we are not in any way at personal odds. I'm really ashamed of the people at [email protected] who gave you such a bum reply when the Messiah2 support team forwarded your question. As you know I've taken that up with the Messiah team.

Do I have your permission to alter your title to put a question mark at the end after the word off?

yes you do but i think it time to call this one quits what do you think

Yes - and I hope you win. I'll close the thread.