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bighap 14-04-2003 09:28

New PS2 Model: SCPH-50000
 
The new model will be released May 15th in Japan(also the release date of the Matrix Reloaded in the US). Sounds good. Check it out here

mach7 14-04-2003 11:51

Sounds very cool, designing it to work better with the recordable DVDs and all.

You think there is a way to integrate those improved lasers into older versions of the PS2?

Jay boy 14-04-2003 12:19

YES!!! I will get that version and have it modded with a messiah 2.

hyungsup 14-04-2003 15:05

this doesn't have the I link....
well was there any use for this???
is ne1 using this port on ur ps2???
cause the new USB2.0 is faster I believe

UrrBodyH8sMe 14-04-2003 15:30

hmm sounds good though when r they do in the USA
 
why did sony make the 5000 series read dvd-r and +r better if they hate pirted softwere unless they mean this for copied dvd movies which still would prob be prited

mach7 14-04-2003 16:21

Re: hmm sounds good though when r they do in the USA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by UrrBodyH8sMe
why did sony make the 5000 series read dvd-r and +r better if they hate pirted softwere unless they mean this for copied dvd movies which still would prob be prited
I was thinking that meself. I suppose appealing to the increasing home usage of dvd-r videos outweighed the side effect of making the pirate's life easier (which is a losing battle anyway).

bighap 14-04-2003 16:34

It doesn't say anything about improving recorded media playback. It just says it is now supported, which it has been for quite some time, just never advertised.

UrrBodyH8sMe 14-04-2003 16:52

o
 
o that answeres that now about when r they do to be here in the usa

bighap 14-04-2003 17:50

Re: o
 
Quote:

Originally posted by UrrBodyH8sMe
now about when r they do to be here in the usa
Don't know. We don't even have the v8 yet. Maybe we will get this instead of the v8....????

Headly 14-04-2003 18:24

My favorite part of this is the quieter fan. I hate watching a movie at night and having to crank the volume due to the whhhhhrrrrr.

Headly 14-04-2003 22:43

Now the question is when is the messiah and other chips going to be updated so they are compatable with this version?

bighap 14-04-2003 22:52

Probably as soon as the Messiah team gets their hands on one of these new systems.

UrrBodyH8sMe 14-04-2003 23:11

what they look like
 
do they look the same

Headly 14-04-2003 23:15

I seriously doubt that Sony would totally redo their entire case design. I would imagine that it will be exactly the same case with the addition of one liitle shinny black spot for the IR sensor. They could even locate it on the lower part of the unit so that it sits back a little and is not that obvious.

dust2dust 14-04-2003 23:31

v8 still hard to find ,it had new copied game protection it stopped old chips working,these have been cracked a while now

u can gaurantee sony knows this
my guess is it will have internal changes,aimed at stoping our poor little chips,we will soon see

bighap the article actually states improved dvd laser,it better be a new better laser, false advertising if not

bighap 14-04-2003 23:37

I have read it 3 times have still don't see any mention to an improved laser.

Headly 15-04-2003 00:05

I don't see anywhere that it actually mentions an improved laser. It simply states that it will have new DVD capabilities that they decribes as DVD-/+R and RW playback.

bighap 15-04-2003 00:18

And the ps2 has been able to play all those since the v5.:o

mach7 15-04-2003 07:42

My V7 doesn't really play any other dvd-r's all that well besides Ritek's. Games skip, movies chop. I would hope if they are advertising that the new PS2's are dvd-r compatible it would mean more than one brand. But you never know...

Hull_chipper 15-04-2003 08:22

Think its safe to say Sony will be making some changes inside this lil baby to try & spoil my new hobby lol.

hyungsup 15-04-2003 14:28

Quote:

Originally posted by Headly
I seriously doubt that Sony would totally redo their entire case design. I would imagine that it will be exactly the same case with the addition of one liitle shinny black spot for the IR sensor. They could even locate it on the lower part of the unit so that it sits back a little and is not that obvious.
I say the iLink port will be replaced by IR sensors
Nothing else.....

Gurm 16-04-2003 05:10

Probably. While firewire (ilink) is, in fact, superior to USB (even USB 2.0) it is also pricier and not as well supported. Add to that the inconvenience of putting your PS2 within 2 feet of the other guy's PS2... I mean, has anyone actually DONE that? I sure haven't.

- Gurm

dust2dust 16-04-2003 22:52

Quote:

Originally posted by bighap
I have read it 3 times have still don't see any mention to an improved laser.
it doesnt actually state improved laser

but it states it will read dvd-r dvd-rw dvd+r dvd+rw
v5 v6 v7 none of these read all the above formats reliably


im sure the laser will be improved
but i sure new protection will be in there as well

ie previously mentioned by charlie( grr giving somy ideas)
if disk is entered and passes as ps2 disk,they could take a reading from the laser,it would tell them what media the ps2 was reading was cd cdr dvd dvdr ,if its dvdr red screen ,ps2 games dont come on dvdr
this would take no hardware changes,just quick biit of code

the laser nows the difference between dvdr and a pressed dvd ,it has to to be able to read them

StartingLine 17-04-2003 02:11

sounds good if protection is not added..
:p

bighap 21-05-2003 13:27

SCPH-50000 Pics and Vids
 
lik-sang has added pictures and demonstration videos of the new SCPH-50000. Check them out here

ottoman 21-05-2003 17:37

Nah. Dust is on the right track.

The only way that sony would release a new model ps2 is because it got better protection against piracy.

Okay, so there's a few gizmo's that should have been on the original anyway thrown in but is that really enough to go redesigning the ps2, I don't think so.

Snoopy007 21-05-2003 17:46

The new 50000 uses the 400c lens.

400c is the lens used in most v7 models. So no improvement there.

charlie_ps2 26-05-2003 12:22

MODCHIP OPERATIONS
 
We've looked at the 50000 sent to us from Japan and it appears that the non-swap modchips, if they behave similar to Messiah 2, are going to need some re-design.

The CD/DVD points are no longer on nice pads - they revert to the vias like on the v4 systems. So many an amateur with the blowtorch may toast their 5000x in due course!

So with stuff shifted around, there's a lot to do with reading the BIOS, writing and testing code.

I'll try and give another report on Thursday.

Seven O Two 26-05-2003 17:19

Re: MODCHIP OPERATIONS
 
Quote:

Originally posted by charlie_ps2
We've looked at the 50000 sent to us from Japan and it appears that the non-swap modchips, if they behave similar to Messiah 2, are going to need some re-design.

The CD/DVD points are no longer on nice pads - they revert to the vias like on the v4 systems. So many an amateur with the blowtorch may toast their 5000x in due course!

So with stuff shifted around, there's a lot to do with reading the BIOS, writing and testing code.

I'll try and give another report on Thursday.




figures theyd do somethin like that, time to stock up of v7's lol, because i cant mod a v4 to save my life

Gurm 26-05-2003 20:16

v4's aren't that hard, really. The issue is that via's are a pain in the ass to solder to... until you realize that the coating needs to be stripped away so that there's some metal for the solder to stick to.

- Gurm

ottoman 27-05-2003 00:12

The soldering ain't really that bad, it just the piss poor laser you have to work with after the mod.

Gurm 27-05-2003 07:28

I swear I'm the luckiest guy ever. Two of my v4's now have read +R's after modding with no problem!

- Gurm

ottoman 27-05-2003 12:44

U R lucky. We dropped a new laser in my m8's version 4 and sat with a scope setting it up perfectly for about 2 hours amd we still couldn't get it to read GTAViceCity or The Getaway reliably both on traxdata dvd-r. Maybe I should have got him to try dvd+r.

Regards

charlie_ps2 28-05-2003 15:51

MESSIAH 2 WORKS ON SCPH 50000
 
I am authorised by the Messiah 2 Team to announce version 1.31 of the Messiah 2 chip.

This version supports the Jap SCPH 50000.

Subject to regression tests currently being performed on the earlier PS2 models, the new version of Messiah 2 will be in production with the next production batch.

There are no functionality changes in this release.

bighap 28-05-2003 15:51

You gotta love the M2 team.:)

Seven O Two 28-05-2003 16:14

your right about that

Hull_chipper 29-05-2003 00:58

How the hell do they do it?????????

I've only just worked out how a soldering iron works :D

bobfffg 29-05-2003 03:47

damn right, all the chip developers (especially the M2 team) deserve big respect :cool:

anyone got any idea when this PS2 v8 will be released in the UK?

lufcfan 30-05-2003 11:29

I have HUGE respect to anyone who can even think about modding a PS2 :p . It IS hard as hell and I wouldn't dream of doing it! By the way, my V4R laser is absolutely superb - not one problem, never skipped, never jumped or chopped at all - and it ain't never been cleaned (well, ONCE in two years)! I really am lucky.


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