the seventh seal (taiwan game) most protect game ever
 

hey

i am having a very rough time trying to backup a taiwan made game called "the seventh seal- ressurection of the dark lords"

it has the following protections as told by my taiwan friend:

safedisc 2.xx latest version
securom 4.x
serial key-it checks the cd if it is original or not and then ask to re-enter the cd key
the automenu doesn't come up if you put in bad cd and im sure the install program is also encrypted
-by the way it is not just 1 cd but a collection of 5- my friend tells me that only cd1 is protected though

i tried the following softwares

clone cd latest verson

nero latest version

alcohol 120% latest version using securom 4.x and safedisc 2.8 serttings

winiso (thought maybe worth a try- couldn't even open the iso)


tell me is this even possible- can it not be copied and if it is like this then we are in deep trouble as game companies all over the world will take this as an example and none of the cds could ever be backed up.

update:
 

i tried a few different cd identifier programs

a few of them said that there was no cd in the drive

a few of them said that there was no protection

some said unknown protection

Its impossible to have Safedisk and SecuROM protection at the same time.

i know it sounds odd but that is what he said

and this guy has been trying for two weeks now to get a solution for this problem

he told me there was sd2 for sure but he also mentioned some other. when i got a hold of the cd i found i couldn't do anything to copy it.

i said i could help him (not very bright thing to do huh)
but i think its impossible

even on the original it takes about a minute for the cd to check if the key and the cd is correct

As i said, its impossible to have Safedisc and SecuROM on a CD at the same time.
Try this to analyze the main .exe and see what it tells you.

doesn't recognize
 

when i tell the program to identify the setup.exe protection
it says "Safedisc nor SecuROM was found" i try the dlls and it says "unknown error occured"

what could be the version of the safedisc and the other protections

Re: doesn't recognize
 

Latest Safedisk is 2.80.11, latest SecuROM is 4.8something.

identifier program
 

i still cant get my hand on a good identifier program

the one you gave me didn't work

Maybe its neighter Safedisk nor SecuROM. Have you tried ClonyXXL?

tried clony already
 

yeah tried the latest version of clonyxxl (2.0.0.6 is it)

And it says unknown protection?

yep
 

i think so man

this game is really frustrating

ive tried everything i could think of

now i need guidance from pros

Tell me your CD writer model.

Liteon 401248 w/ fw upgrade
 

i dont think it is the problem with my cdwriter as my friends standalone burner(one without com) couldn't even copy it

Liteons are known to be very good ones indeed.

When was the game released?
Which company made it? (whats their website btw?)

its a game from taiwan called the seventh seal. its made by a taiwan company called Soft-world International Corporation

and this game is very very new hardly a month old i would guess

but im surprised that a game made in taiwan (which doesn't have such a huge market) would actually be unable to copy

Have you searched for a crack yet?

since i dont know chinese i cant find anything on this game no crack nothing

but my friend said there is a no cd crack but he wants to backup without the crack. i dont know why

im just worried that if there are games that can't be copied then the game companies win and thats not a good sign

they might use this same protection for the upcoming games like sequels to starcraft, warcraft3, counter-strike, sims etc

i know they want to cut down on piracy but dont they know that the pirates are a lot smarter than the game companies and will fend off any protections that they throw at them

but why do we as consumers suffer from not being able to backup our programs.

If this really is a new kind of protection and it gets used on some more popular games people will find a way to copy it.

Have you tried making an image using Alcohol with SecuROM 4.8 settings and mounting that image?

tried that also
 

tried alcohol using securom and safedisc settings burning them on cdrw and when that didn't work i just played it off the alcohol emulator drive
-still didn't work

every time you put the cd in (original or otherwise) it would say "checking disk".

if the original is entered then autorun would startup

if the fake/backup cd is entered it would say wrong cd and it wouldn't run

the install exe is only 36kb and the rest of the files are also pretty short except the main data2.cab file which is 400+mb

if that is any indication of what the protection could be

Can you install the game from the backup?

I tried google but only found useless crap. Meaby i need to rethink my searching methods.
Well then, its obvious why it wouldnt work now.

backup?
 

it wont let me install it wont let me do anything with the backup cd. the autorun doesn't work and its encrypted along with the install setup.exe

finally
 

finally we are getting somewhere

thanks for the link Vluka

but one thing though

---------------how to beat StarForce--------

here is direct text from that site for those who need it

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An RPG game, “Seventh Seal: The Resurrection of the Dark Lord ”, was released in Taiwan, on September 28th. It is based on the story of six kinds of energy kept by the “seventh seal” and is expected to become a hit in Taiwan, Malaysia, China, USA, Canada, Singapore, and Hong Kong. The game is published by the Taiwanese company, Soft-World International Corp Ltd, which regularly protects its PC games by StarForce copy protection systems.
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Re: finally
 

No other way...

StarForce?
 

are you saying that there is NO WAY that we could copy starforce protected games.

how about in the future....

Re: StarForce?
 

you just cannot create a working copy of a Starforce protected game as they use special (expensive) media.
use a crack, it's the only way to get around this.

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