Win XP and Games Problems.
 

Folks, I'm getting random re-boots using Win XP. My machine is new and the only items that I have added are:

1) MOHAA.

2) SOF2.

Including the "No CD" cracks, I also updated SOF2 to version 1.01.

Updated Detonator drivers to 29.42.

Has anyone else experienced the random re-boot problem, after installing any of the above?

I'm discounting the Detonator drivers because a friend is using the 30.30 frivers and he gets the same problem: So I'm guessing it's the games or the cracks.

Anyone got any other ideas?

Miko200.

if you've got a via chipset (like me), that's what's probably causing the problem. windowsxp doesn't like a certain combination. solution: get win98.
btw, i have both those games, and it only stuffs up on medal of honour.

Try updating the your Bios and see if that helps.

Winupdate
 

Have you tried Winupdate. There are a lot of fixes/service packs that might help...... I have both games running perfectly on my XP Pro on an Intel chipset, PIII 1GHz, 512MB, ASUS V7700 GF2 video.

Thanks for replying folks.

1) I actually perfer Win XP over '98 so changing back is out.

2) I'll check for Bios update.

3) All Win updates have been completed as they come out.


Thanks again for the input.


Mick.

Reboots with WinXP and MOHAA and SOF2
 

I have WinXP with MOHAA and via chipsets on Gigabyte motherboard. Don't have SOF2 installed. No problems Installed MOHAA and cleaned game.exe with safedisk cleaner myself to get noCD game exe. I use WinXP default support for my via chip motherboard. Supports motherboard and on board sound OK. Stay with WinXP over Win98. May be slightly slower on some games than Win98 it is reported but more stable than Win98

Sorry for bringing this up again but: It looks like it was "driver related." And NOT the game or patches as I originally thought.

The problem file looks like it is nv4_sisp. Wil roll back the detonator drivers and see what happens,


Mick.

You have the "infinite loop" problem
Check this site if you have a AMD and VIA chip http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=64

Cheers Belch, I'd heard of this before I just didn't know where to look. Thanks again.

Mick.

also getting random reboots
 

i also get random reboots... hate that shit...

First of all, if you have a Via chipset, don't update it's drivers. The ones supplied with XP are extremely stable, and have yet to be outdone. As far as reboots, right click on My Computer and choose Properties. Click the Advanced Tab and then the settings button under Startup and Recovery. Unselect Automatically Restart from the window and close. That should fix your problem. Keep in mind that the system restarts due to a system failure. This could range anywhere to a missing txt file to a corrupted wav to a virus.... so it's not always a crucial situation. Write back with results.

P.S: Have you gotten all the crucial updates(and drivers) from www.windowsupdate.com? Might be a good idea

Rambler you wouldn't live in Wisbech by any chance would you?

The Nvidia's Detonator XP 30.82 driver is out now, was just released yesterday.

I also gets random reboots playing Civilization 3 and sometimes with MOHAA, and I do use the VIA 4 in 1 drivers.

Well I rolled back the Detonator drivers to the 21.83 (came with the card) and so far have had no problems. I kept the updated Via-4-in-1 drivers. So I'm now keeping my fingers crossed.

I'll download the NEW Det drivers 30.92, as per above post from Buchankas. I can always roll back if things go wrong again.

Mik0200

Hello to all in these forums,
I am new to this site, and have just registered for posting.
In response to your spont. reboots, I have seen this mentioned in every type of forum that I belong to; It is not just a AMD problem, or a VIA chipset problem. It is happening with Intel, SIS, ALI and VIa together, regardless of mobo or processor.
I was having the same problem under intense cpu load but usually when incoding/decoding .vob files. HEat was not an issue, and I am fairly certain that drivers are not the issue (of any type)
I build a lot of computers, and am very familiar with the hardware. One item that I reset in WinXP under Administrative tools was to disable the IMAPI burning CD client, and my reboots have stopped. The native burning program was written by Roxio (Adaptec) for MSoft, and it seems to interfere with other aftermarket burning, and other video/audio programs.
This may sound strange, because most people are not "using" their burner when this happens, but it works (for me)

This is a MS issue, not a hardware issue. With so many resident/native programs running in the background, this lays a fertile area for conflicts. Check your Events schedule in Ad. tools for the errors that occured at the time of the reboot; they are all system conflicts. By just disabling the auto restart feature, you will be inviting the old Win98 lockups, in which case, ;you will have to reboot and the chkdisc will run.

Hope this helps,
Phil

PS I am very new to this game protection stuff, and am basically making a lot of frizbies for discs. If someone can get me started, I would sure appreciate it.

Download CloneCD and ClonyXXL and you will overcome any protection :)

Happy burning

luke.r,

Thanks; I have downloaded both, but I haven't been smart enough to figure them out!
So far, both progs. have told me what type of protection the game (Superbike 2001 US) has which is Safedisc, but I don't know what to do with this information. One of the programs listed several files in the info stage, and I tried burning the disc without those files, but alas,,,,another frizbee.

clonyxx is mostly written in the German language, even though I use the English version, my forefathers from Deutschland did not share their language with me. My only knowledge of German pertains to our beloved President Kennedy many years ago. He was speaking in Berlin in the early 60's, and was trying to impress the Germans by saying something like "Ich bin ein Berliner". He was trying to say he was a Berliner, but I guesss the actual translation was something like, " I am a jelly doughnut"
Anyway, thanks for the reply, and if you can shed any further tips on using these 2 programs or steer me to where I can learn, I would appreciate.

Phil

kicme.to/englishclony

Full english ClonyXXL

When it tells you what protection it has just click the button which says Start CloneCD and then choose read to image file then select the profile _Clonyxxl and all setting will be done for you and you will end up with a game instead of a frisbee!!!

Luke,
my apologies, I did not have the clonecd downloaded, I had the
data base. I installed the proper program and wrote an image file. I'll let you know.

Phil

luke wrote: "Download CloneCD and ClonyXXL and you will overcome any protection

Happy burning"

I beg to differ Mr luke. ClonecCD wont overcome safedisc v2.72

Well I can burn it. Maybe your burner not capable of it.

Luke,
I was able to copy my first game backup; everything went well.

I'm sure that the other Junior member that just responded to your last post was "trying to be helpful" I run into a number of these types of responses in other forums that I moderate..... no useful solutions, just another "informative" response that gets the new member another post.

Thanks again, and I'll continue to back up my data, all the while hoping that I won't run into SAFEDISC v.2.72:)

Phil

Phil, who gives a crap about number of posts you have? The fact is, safedisc v2.72.00 has no current unwrapper, and I dont care what burner you have, you aint copying something with 2.72 on it right now.

You don't need an unwrapper to copy Safedisc 2.72. Safedisc is useless no matter what the version as long as you read it to an image with CloneCD at 4x.

Thank You

Just out of curiousity,
How long should it take to clone a CD with ConeCD? I cloned my first CD with this prog. and it wrote the image to my HDD at only 7kbs. Task Manager only reports cpu usage at around 2%, so it doesn't seem to be dependent on system speed, as does dvd ripping and encoding (100% cpu usage)
Are there some tweaks to speed up the process?

Phil

Do you have the newest version 4.0.1.10

LOL!

And what do you find so funny?

The doughnut thing

Yes,
I have the latest version; I'm reading the info off of a Phillips 24x12x40 drive with an AMD XP2000+ and 512m Crucial PC2100 mem to a dedicated 15g UDMA100 HDD. I don't think is't a horsepower issue.
It takes me about 12 hours to codec a 2 hr DVD to VCD, at high quality settings, which is very good; I guess I just haven't cloned enough games yet to get a feel for how long it should take.

Phil

Your writer isn't the best. I suggest getting a Lite-On or Plextor.

Just for info it shouldn't take longer than 10mins maximum to read a game to an image.

Luke,
do you think it's the writer thats slowing me down?. All the drive has to do is clone the image; the burn time is almost inconsequential at the end, it's the read time I'm concerned about. I'm not sure why the burn speed at the Clone copy part is important; I would think that at the initial part, it would only involve the reading capability of the drive.
Steer me if I'm wrong in my thinking.

Phil