Burning Safedisk2 with Clonecd
 

Hi guys...
im new to the whole bruning scene so i need a little help.
i have clone cd and my burner is supported for the best type of writting and reading. the burner is a sony CD-RW CRX175E.

what settings and speeds should i use in clone cd and do i need any outside programs or files other that clone cd to burn a 1:1 copy of safedisk 2? m trying to burn medal of honour and pool of radiance 2
thanks a lot for your help

arnt we all *sigh** lol
aparrently the settings on clone CD are just have fast error skip checked(nothing else) and in the fast error skip settings, set that to 3 and error corection to none. hope this helps

a tutorial i found says to use 1X read, select subchannel data from audio and data tracks, fast error skip>>read retry to 5 and correction to none.??? So far it didn't work for mine. Don't know whether the writing speed matters ( haven't tried it at 1X write)

:mad:

safedisc 2 does not need read subchannel data ticked. for mohaa, from what i've gathered, do the normal fast error skip on and read it in. then, use latest betablocker on .ccd file, and burn. hopefully this does it. i think betablocker eliminates the need for aws. ;) good luck

From what I have found, by doing a copy of mohaa from my brothers original so I could sit & try a few different things. The new version of BetaBlocker only works with a few cd-roms as well. For the earlier versions of SDV2 I used BB to change the image as my Mitsumi can't do EFM, the copy worked in all drives I have, but the new version doesn't work in any drives... :( DOH!!

Its either they really have given SDV2 a good kick up the ass, or BB is not working correctly... Yep, BB eliminates aws if your drive only supports Hardware correction in the Fast Error Settings...

I found out today actually ... 1. It really doesn't matter if you do or don't read the Subchannels in SDV2, found either way the copy will work... 2. Use CloneCD try icon, Hide CDR Media & the copy will work in my Mitsumi perfectly, this is why I think they have given SDV2 a good kick up the ass ....

Hope this helps .... :)

To copy MOHAA:
Read to image file at 4X - Fast Error Skip, Read Retries 0-3 (ur choice), Error Correction=Software.

Drag and drop .img file into the modified Betablocker and patch it (both cd's)

Burn back to CD-R at 4X.
Use 'Hide CD-R Media' in Clone CD tray if playing from a cd-writer because of the ATIP check - the ATIp check isn't a new feature to 2.51.021, it was in the last SD2 as well.

Betablocker won't help ALL writers copy this game. There is no need to tick subs.

weird, done all that, the only problem im having now, is burning the .img file back onto a disk, nero says theres not enough room on the CD:confused: although its a normal 80min CDR......weird......oh well, thanks for your help, im sure i'll sus it
cheers

ya trying to burn image to cd with nero burning rom, and it says theres not enough room on my disk, the .img file is 735mb.............is this right??

Hehe - just when u thought you've heard it all...:)

I've seen you posting about your image being too big a few times before - now you can maybe see your problem? Burn with CCD. ;)

LMAO, ya ya, lol, take the p*** why dont ya??
lol
i had to use nero, coz my clone cd trial period ran out:( lol, oh well maybe i hould give it up as a bad job......:)

olli works hard. send the guy some dough. if u wrote a great program, he'd send YOU money.

how do i copy empire earth?
 

I have successfully copied MOHAA with clony and betablocker, anyone got any help for me on how to do EE?

cheers.

KV

Can you really copy MOHAA with betablocker?
i copyied MOHAA with my lite-on, no probs.

faz2002

yeah, there are some guides on how to do it out there, i found one after a little looking and it worked np.

Hi Faz 2000.

I´m also useing the Lite-On 24x and cannot manage to get a fully working copy of mohaa. I can install from the copied cd´s but no way starting with it.

Which program, firmware did you use?

Which version is the Mohaa? German, UK, US?

Please give me a hint.

Make sure you enable Hide CD-R Media if you play the game from a burner to get round the ATIP check. You can find this in the Clone CD Tray.

empire earth is securom new betablocker will NOT help you here ;)

Thanks for the hint Ghosthacker, but i already used that option. It won´t make a difference. I will try out different speeds of reading and writing and also try some other progs.

If imanage to get a fully working copy i will post it here.

biggest hint ANYONE can give you is to slow down and NOT USE AWS

Download Clony XXL to get the correct settings to use in Clone CD. If the game is Securom protected as podunkiller said, enable both subs when reading.

Thanks for the hints guys. I tried different speeds and for now i can say that i have a partially working copy, which means that you can install and play with the copy, but you have to engage the hide the cdr-media feature in clone cd. So a really full working copy seems to be impossible.

Any comments?

Lamoth

Hi you cant get a working copy of Mohaa without using the hide cdr media from the clonecd tray.Safedisk2.5.xx has an atip check which is not there on pressed cds and is only found if you play from your cd writer.So you have to enable hide cdr media if you want to play with the disc in your cd writer or play from a cd/dvd rom.

not for cd-dvd roms ............ *promise*

yeah that bit was writen realy badly you dont have to enable hide cdr media if you play from cd/dvd rom

new games out of the box don't even want to work if you don'ty tick hide cdr media,

Safedisc2
 

You donot need to have the best equipment to make backup of Safedisc2 games. Just download the new CloneCD4 (beta) and it takes care the rest, I did tried it. It works for MOHAA (SD2). Also the backup copy must be inserted into regaular cdrom drive to play. Backup copy DOESNOT work in CD recorder. Safedisc2 method can recognize the cdr or original cd due to double protection. Good luck!

Re: Safedisc2
 

What burner are you using - also CCD4 won't help ALL burners achieve this.

Also - it is possible to play the game in a burner when you enable Hide CD-R Media in the Clone CD Tray to get round the ATIP check.

Safedisc2 and SecureRom(NEW)
 

Yes, I use Sony CDRW CRX-175A1 to read and burn MOH AA both at max speed (24x) and it works. (crazy huh...but just for testing). CCD4 also works on World WarIII (SecureRom (NEW). Using Samsung DVDRom SD-616 (not support by CloneCD) and I set max reading speed. It takes less than 8 mins to read. I am satisfied with the new results compared with the bad old CCD3.

for some reason, i've always been able to burn safedisc2 @ max speed as well (havent gotten a 2.51 game yet though, civ3 is as close as i've come). securom new, on the other hand, thats a 16 x-er ;)

I did renegade today, using clony and betablocker but like a lot of the others say. I have to play from my rewriter and tick the hide media tab.