dunno whats causing the problem...
anyway pid v6.0 will be ported over to MASM. we will test it with lots of different Operating Systems and their service packs to trace possibe bugs.

Excellent, looking forward to it :)

any new progress?

yep, many changes have been done in v6.0.
we will also have features other scanners don´t have and could only dream of ;)
and also lots of suprises.

but pid v6.0 is kinda "on ice" for the public atm.
if new exe crypters/packers, pc game prots etc. are released or updated i´ll update pid with the new signatures but the versions will only be given to my
friends to test them.

there will also be a public v5.1 wich adds lots of new and improved detections but no more new features. they will all be used in v6.0.

Man I'm whated for PID 6.0 for about 1 year now! Wonder how old Im gonna get when it hit the market!

PID 5 is a great tool as im sure your aware :) . I to would love to get my greasy little mits on PID 6.0. Oh well i guess we will have to wait a while longer huh. Whats the time scale regarding PID 5.1 (as regards to the general public being able to download ?). Thanks again.

i don´t want to say it´s ready in a few weeks. cos if i won´t release it then ppl get mad at me ;)
let´s say when it´s done. v5.1 will get a huge detection update to detect the latest prots and to fix some detection bugs.

i´m thinking about some more betatesters scanning their games/applications
and submitting bugs + executables for testing.
drop me a pm if you want to test it. i will accept a few testers only, but you should have some posts here in the forum and a bit more as a basic knowledge about protections.
best is you are unpacking protections in your freetime.
i.e. exe protectors like armadillo & asprotect, dongles, license systems...

wooopps...maybe I should sign up since I'm on vacation right now;)

Hi cdkiller,

just wanted to ask about the state of progress ?

well pid detects all the latest pc iso protections.
also we are working on new features of pid wich i can´t tell about.
monty, when i send out the next alpha build you´ll get it too so you can see it yourself. i don´t want to make all the new stuff public yet ;)

That is good news :D

Hi, love the prog, has helped me no end...but thought I'd have a gripe anyways :p and someone else in this thread summed it up perfectly:

Is it possible to make the interface and text a little bigger, it's just kinda on the smallish size.

And, also, for common folk like me who don't really need to read thru the finer details, could you do something simple like change the colour of the text for when a protection type _IS_ identified? It's just that I find myself reading a paragraph of text when there was no actual protection detected. I guess what I mean is to FLAG the text when a protection mechanism is detected.

Cheers :)

I think it's a good idea.

I know there is something concerning this issue.....cdkiller can tell you more about it.....:D:D

You can download the core.dll V 1.0.0.306 on http://www.down-dll.com/index.html?frameA=dll_C

string checks like in core.dll(s) of unreal engine powered games were already added long time ago...
we will have some tests once the gui is done so we can decide about changing the color of detected protections.

Yes if i had to comment one thing i would like changed it would be the same issue about a font change once protections are Identified (for the public version obviously)

(ps thanks for the update cdkiller. I only use PID now as a result of all the work thats gone into it and the advances made from when PID was born and its life started to now when PID is enjoying full maturity ;) One thing i like is the "Protection report" tab as it makes using the GUI so much easier/faster. Keep up the excellent work !!

You will probably flame me for this or something similar but I am just wondering how PiD6 is going... ?

:)

atm development of pid v6.0 is kinda "on hold".
i had a real life drawback the recent time and i need to sort some things...
when will development continue?... honestly i can´t tell yet...
i just have much more important stuff to do...

Ok, then I know. Sometimes real life needs to be maintained too so focus on that... :)

Fan !!!
 

Hallo cdkiller,

I´m your biggest fan.

I hope u can continue your lifework till perfection.:D

it´s me back with a progress update...

in the next 1-2 weeks i´m putting a new PID rls together.
it will only be a Protection Update wich keeps PID up2date.
new features will be introduced in v6.0 wich we are working on from time to time.

what will be new for PC game protetections?

- Securom v7.xx.xx detection
i won´t show v7.00.00.0xxx because i´m not 100% sure if it´s the real version. just check some games.
i.e. Serious Sam 2 (2005-10-20) is supposed to have SecuROM 7.00.00.0172. (debug the exe and break at the cd-check, search for AddD and you´ll see...
but look at more recently released games...
CSI-3 Dimensions of Murder v1.0 appears to have SecuROM SecuROM 7.00.00.0008 but was released 2006-02-22. another example is Tony Hawks American Wasteland with SecuROM 7.00.00.0014 released 2006-01-17

- JoWood X-Prot detection (beeing used together with SecuROM)
- Laserlok Marathon detection
- Ring-Protech detection
- SmartE Copy Protection detection
- Starforce v3.x version is now displayed with build number
- Sysiphus detection
- Safedisc & Safecast detection improved
- VOB Protect CD/DVD v5.9x with build number detection
- Protect DiSC v6 detection (successor of VOB Protect CD/DVD)

updated non PC-game detections:
- armadillo received the biggest update, pid is now able to tell the version as exact as possible
- ACProtection updated and improved
- ASProtect updated and improved
- ExeCryptor v2 detection
- MoleBox detection

fixes:
- yeah they will be included, thou there isn´t much to fix as the last release was pretty stable code-wise.

the list isn´t completed yet, there will probably more new stuff for you ;)

Nice! ;)

:cool:

:D Good news ! :D

:):):)

Hello, I ran this tool and deleted the attend data, but when I ran the exe, no error, no open, nothing happened. I use this tool again to check it again, it said:

Scanning -> F:\Games\COD2TC\CoD2SP_s.exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 1789952 (01B5000h) Bytes
[!] Safedisc 4.60.000 detected but verification not successfull
assuming exe includes a faked Safedisc version or it has been cracked !
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Key or Serial Check -> cdkey
- Scan Took : 0.828 Seconds


so was there anything wrong with it? Thank you.

you mean appended data?

if so, why did you delete it, chances are the protection/crack needs it

Scanning -> I:\__pid collect\PC-GAME PROTECTiONS\Safedisc\Safedisc 4.60.000 (Call of Duty 2).exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 3139086 (02FE60Eh) Bytes
-> File has 1353230 (014A60Eh) bytes of appended data starting at offset 01B4000h
[!] Safedisc 4.60.000 detected !
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Key or Serial Check -> cdkey
- Scan Took : 1.391 Seconds

like tippex said, the appended data is part of the safedisc protection.

u thought you can crack safedisc when removing the appended data?
it´s not that easy. u need a debugger, bypass the anti-dbg, get to the (hardcoded) oep, dump, fix imports, fix redirected calls, recover stolen bytes and rebuild the exe.

this safedisc discussion made me have a deeper look at it ;)
i´ve coded a better version detection when the version is removed.

-=[ ProtectionID v6.0 *PRiVATE* ALPHA ]=- (c) CDKiLLER & [x/xxx]
Build 2006-03-31
> Ready

Scanning -> I:\__pid collect\PC-GAME PROTECTiONS\Safedisc\Safedisc 4.xx.xxx (real v4.00.001) (NBA Live 2006).exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 10668852 (0A2CB34h) Bytes
-> File has 1481524 (0169B34h) bytes of appended data starting at offset 08C3000h
[!] Safedisc v3.20 - v4.xx or newer [removed version] detected !
[!] removed version is Safedisc v4.00.000 - v4.00.003
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Key or Serial Check -> Unregistered
- Scan Took : 2.437 Seconds

Scanning -> I:\__pid collect\PC-GAME PROTECTiONS\Safedisc\Safedisc 4.xx.xxx + Custom (real v4.60.000) (Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.3).exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 7254894 (06EB36Eh) Bytes
-> File has 1192814 (012336Eh) bytes of appended data starting at offset 05C8000h
[!] Safedisc v3.20 - v4.xx or newer [removed version] detected !
[!] removed version is Safedisc v4.50.000 - v4.60.000
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Check String -> Please insert
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Key or Serial Check -> CDKey
- Scan Took : 1.735 Seconds

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here´s a list with a few games without any version info:
Flatout
Knight Rider 2
Need For Speed Underground 2
Need For Speed Most Wanted
NHL 2006
NBA Live 2006

i´ve only seen EA games without version info in it...

now you´ll see the version, not 100% exact but better than before (v3.20 - v4.xx or newer) ;)

Hi mate,

good to here you are making progress.

I have got two questions:

1) When will the next "public" be released ?
2) Will it also detect the most common app protectors/packers (I think, you know what I mean: Das Gürteltier mit all seinen Facetten, z.B.)


Greetz

Monty

yeah the Armadillo protection has been improved a lot. PID can detect versions like v4.00 - v4.05, v4.10 - v4.20, v4.30, v4.40...
i´m also thinking about detections if some arma features like Import Elemination, Debug-Blocker, Copy-Mem2 etc are used.

during the following week.
no big changes thou, "just" updated and improved detections.
v6.0 will be the big one ;)

REALLY ??

Oh man, that sounds fantastic. I don't know how this could be coded, but anyway...when you tell me it does, I think I can rely on you :D
Detecting certain arma versions (e.g. 4.10 and NOT 3.78-4.xx, like PEID does) would already be rather cool, but detecting IAT elimination, CopyMem II, Code-Splicing, Nanomites, etc., would be..................
well, I am speechless

Can't hardly wait to see this tool "in action".

I cannot expect it... :)

v5.1 is ready to download :D

The last public version (v5.0 Final c) was released 14.12.2004.
Right after releasing it, the development of v6.0 has began and still continues.
Now we release v5.1 to keep you up to date. No core changes, just some files from v6.0 alpha thrown into v5 ;-)
New protections were added, important ones got updated and improved, bugs got fixed...

here´s the changelog:

- added: JoWood X-Prot detection
- added: Laserlok Marathon detection
- added: Protect DiSC detection
- added: Ring-Protech detection
- added: SecuROM v7.xx.xx detection
- added: SmartE Copy Protection detection
- added: Starforce v3.x version is now displayed with build number
- added: Tages v5 detection
- added: VOB Protect CD/DVD v5.9x with build number detection instead of showing "VOB Protect CD/DVD [modified version] detected"
- added: ACProtect version detection for v1.09, v1.10, v1.20, v1.21, v1.22, v1.23, v1.3c, v1.32, v1.35 / v1.40, v1.41 and v2.0
- added: Armadillo version detection for v1.00 - v1.84, v2.00 - v2.40, v2.60 - v3.00, v3.05 - v3.20
v3.30 - v3.61, v3.70 - v3.75, v3.76 - v3.77, v3.78, v4.00 - v4.05, v4.10 - v4.20, v4.30 and v4.40
- added: ASProtect version detection for v1.0, v1.1, v1.11, v1.2, 1.22 - v1.23 Beta, 1.23 RC4 - 1.3.08.24, 1.23 RC4 (Registered),
v1.31, v1.32, v1.33, v2.0 Alpha and v2.1 - v2.11
- added: EXE Cryptor v2.0 - v2.1.xx, v2.2.0 - v2.2.4 and v2.3.0 - v2.3.7 detection
- added: FSG v1.0, v1.2, v1.3 - v1.31, v1.3.3, v1.33a and v2.0 detection
- added: PE Compact v2.xx generic detection
- added: PE Compact version detection for v1.00 - v1.3x, v1.40 - v1.50, v1.55, v1.56 - v1.65, v1.66 - v1.84,
v2.0 Beta Build v52, v2.00 - v2.10 and v2.20 - v2.64
- added: some more CD/DVD-Check detections
- improved: Laserlok detection
- improved: Safedisc [generic v1, v2, v3, v4] verification code making it possible to detect a faked Safedisc protection were the SD string
'BoG_ *90.0&!! Yy>' was simply added to the PE header, also added another piece of code checking for 'real' Safedisc
- improved: Safedisc v3.20 - v4.xx [unknown version] is more accurate due new checks
(i.e. NBA Live 2006, version is removed, PID detects 'Safedisc v4.00.001 - v4.00.003)
- improved: Safecast detection in safecast´ed executables
- improved: SecuROM detection, added one more check to speed up scanning in non SecuROM´ed files
- improved: StarForce detection
- improved: UPX detection
- improved: VOB Protect CD/DVD detection completely rewritten

protection id is going to be more than a pc-game protection scanner in the next release. the most important application protections are already be detected in this version. a lot more will follow later.

heh just noticed my post count beeing at 1111 ;)

Well done buddy. Nice work as usual. ;)

Yepp, just tested it on some Arma, AsProtect, Aspack, ExeCryptor etc. files.....very, very nice work.

Many Thanx, dude!

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:D :D He he made me giggle. (I have been banned for advertizing) straight to the point Jor forster.

seems like it´s time for v5.1b ;)

Tages detection is broken in Act Of War High Tension.
seems like a new version (v5.4.x.x ?) or a custom one.

also i´ll include "TryMedia ActiveMark" and "KochMedia ePolice" detection cos they´r used in lots of "digital download" versions of pcgames.

the armadillo / asprotect detection will also receive an update to recognize the latest version.