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csgill75 09-04-2007 19:32

I have the EA Link Version, and it works for me what i did was patch it w/ the NO DVD .exe and it works. it didnt work before i did that though so it needs to have the no dvd file added for it to work

symanex 09-04-2007 19:51

for me when i try to play in network
 
for me when i try to play a network game against friends and that i have start the trainers , i active the instant build and give to me some money after a couple of minute a message came up with an error similar to that , and error happen desync problem bla bla bla one or some of the player have a modified version of the games and the games terminated and rego to the network screen , if i do not start the trainer and play as normal no pb... can that be fixed like i don't know how to program or something like that but it's not possible to make something that make the games thinking that the trainer modifing nothing and undercovers modifie the thing and make this error message to come up ?

Caboose O'Malley 09-04-2007 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by symanex (Post 339666)
it's impossible to play in network because it's say like desync error , one of the player have a modified version of the games .... :( can it be fixed ?

Dude, trainers are made for singleplayer, not multiplayer.... That would be serious cheating.

symanex 09-04-2007 21:04

dude using trainer are cheating at all
 
using trainers for single or multiplayer is cheating so dude s*f* and i talk for network game only that mean me vs friends or me vs my brothers and not online like ea thing

and i prevent them that i use trainer they are very skill and talented player so that help me a lot's by not being wipeout in like 10 minute :)

and i think if that became possible it will elevate trainers and like skill a lot's and will make that more nice because remember we can play against computer like 4 brutal vs 4 ppl and in that think that become helpfull

xantius 09-04-2007 22:06

that seemed to of have touched a nerve :)

symanex 09-04-2007 22:12

lol :P
 
no i just find that if the trainers work in single player why not in network / lan if i can choose to play against humain or computer i just have thinking that can be cool when like 3 or 4 ppl make a little lan and that some have so much advantage on the other that can equilaze the thing :P pherhap that versus brutal computer that can be verry hard :P

DABhand 10-04-2007 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by symanex (Post 339679)
using trainers for single or multiplayer is cheating so dude s*f* and i talk for network game only that mean me vs friends or me vs my brothers and not online like ea thing

and i prevent them that i use trainer they are very skill and talented player so that help me a lot's by not being wipeout in like 10 minute :)

and i think if that became possible it will elevate trainers and like skill a lot's and will make that more nice because remember we can play against computer like 4 brutal vs 4 ppl and in that think that become helpfull

Trainers are created for single player games mostly.

Using one in MP is worse, your cheating yourself and your cheating the people you play against, thus ruining the atmosphere and enjoyment of the game.

Not saying your using it for EA servers, but you said both single and multi are the same, they are not the same.

symanex 10-04-2007 02:28

yeah
 
skirmish me vs computer , network me vs computer or me vs friend that are knoing that i will use trainers oh my god i so ruining the atmosphere lol :P if u use trainers for skirmish why me i cannot use a trainers vs friends of me that are knoing that i will use the trainers so man don't judge me because or don't make look like the bad guy i'm ruining nothing except your little ego and maybe trainers are for mostly for single but why not multilplayer ? in lan ? it similar to a mods i made mods for tiberium sun work perfectly in single , and network not online :) , make mods for diablo 2 work for single and for open battlenet ppl in tiberium sun my mods gave instant unit , and thing like that plus add like 40 news shit and i never ear someone crying oh my god you make the atmosphere of the games worst or you are a so fucking cheater lol

Caboose O'Malley 10-04-2007 07:07

This Thread was made for discussing the trainer, not the morality behind cheating in multiplayer games, so please, stop it before you drop it.
I'm sorry symanex that you've misread my topic and that I've misread yours, but just so you know, trainers don't work online or in LAN, they aren't designed to and for a damn good reason. Mods are different, as long as everyone playing has got the mod then it's all right, everyone's got the same advantages and disadvantages and all the same changes to the main game, but a trainer modifies values "on the fly", that is why you also need to update trainers constantly, because the values in the executable file changes with every new patch release and the values are also different in multiplayer, which again, trainers aren't designed for. What you are looking for is a hack... Oh, and by the way, you could never hurt my "little ego" as you say, because there is no ego to hurt...
I laugh at people who try pitifully to hurt me, when they should know better that one of my other mottos is "Pain and I are old friends." And it's really sad that you come here whining about the fact that you can't beat your pals in a game, here's a tip; play the singleplayer to get some skills (Skirmish, brutal GDI steamroller...)
Oh and another tip for you symanex, use proper grammar in forums, because I bet that most of us had to re-read your posts to get your point which is still very unclear to me.

*Sigh*

Hey Caliber, could it be possible to make the "Inf Aircraft ammo" - option work for only the player and not the AI aswell? I appreciate your hard work and I'm sure everyone else does too.

Thanks.

PCGamer 10-04-2007 08:12

Well with the invincibily cheat i dont care if the ai has unlimited ammo lol

Caboose O'Malley 10-04-2007 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCGamer (Post 339709)
Well with the invincibily cheat i dont care if the ai has unlimited ammo lol

Same here, but it's just that when all of the units are firing like in a frenzy, the game tends to lag a little...

PCGamer 10-04-2007 08:47

oh ok cool :)

symanex 10-04-2007 13:53

sorry for my grammar
 
sorry for my grammer i'm from quebec where the primary language is french and i try to be as clear as possible but sometime it's tuff but i try to do as my best , and i have done the nod and gdi without trainers and after that when i had to format i have take this trainers and that make the game more sīmple but did you tell me if my friends use start the trainer and the same options as mine that could work it's only a theori and at base it was just a suggestion to make my experience more funnier for myself.

and yes that can be good if the unlimited ammo is only for a human player

Caboose O'Malley 10-04-2007 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by کunβeam (Post 339722)
@symanex: You can post in French you know :P I for one understand it ;)

Taken from the forum rules board:


Use English language only. All posts in this forum must be made in English.
This is an international forum, where the common language is English; non-English post may get closed or deleted!

But I'm glad we got that little issue sorted out....
And yes, in theory the trainer could work if you and your buddies use it AND press the options at the same time so that everyone would have the same files/values to avoid the desync error.

PCGamer 10-04-2007 14:09

Merci, oh I mean thankyou haha :P lol

DABhand 10-04-2007 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by symanex (Post 339690)
skirmish me vs computer , network me vs computer or me vs friend that are knoing that i will use trainers oh my god i so ruining the atmosphere lol :P if u use trainers for skirmish why me i cannot use a trainers vs friends of me that are knoing that i will use the trainers so man don't judge me because or don't make look like the bad guy i'm ruining nothing except your little ego and maybe trainers are for mostly for single but why not multilplayer ? in lan ? it similar to a mods i made mods for tiberium sun work perfectly in single , and network not online :) , make mods for diablo 2 work for single and for open battlenet ppl in tiberium sun my mods gave instant unit , and thing like that plus add like 40 news shit and i never ear someone crying oh my god you make the atmosphere of the games worst or you are a so fucking cheater lol


1. I didnt accuse you of anything, you didnt read what was said, which is understandble since your french speaking. This does not mean you can flame others, so be careful unless you may be punished for it.

2. I was pointing out Single player and Multiplayer trainers are NOT the same.

3. I dont need an ego to know what im talking about on this subject is correct.

sheep 10-04-2007 19:12

symanex, either learn to READ english or learn to write it , either way..

before anyone starts saying, well at least he knows more than 1 language, language doesnt take intelligence to learn to takes 2 things..

1. TIME.
2. NECESSITY

the english have no need to learn any other language considering its the international business language and used all over the world, people that know more than 1 language generally know THEIR OWN!! which is a pretty big need.. and also ENGLISH.. if they know a third its generally pretty weak and again linked to rule 2. its not like u find many dutch people speaking ENGLISH, DUTCH and PUNJABI the third language will be linked to rule 2 again which is probably a neighbouring countries patois.

thats why these forums try and stick to english speaking.. then you dont get idiots spouting non-sensicle rants about someone who here was clearly trying to INFORM him and NOT be a prick about the situation.. where the hell he got EGO from what dab said ill never know..

xantius 11-04-2007 11:09

i think a cool option for the trainer would be instant veteran units, and build anywhere on the map... if of course possible.

Caboose O'Malley 11-04-2007 11:31

Build anywhere you say? Hmmm....

*Evil Laughter*

...Oh, sorry, it's just the O'Malley in me ;P

<_<
>_>

... Maybe Caliber should leave some room for mods? ;)...
.... WHERE THE HELL ARE THE MODS!!???

Joe Forster/STA 11-04-2007 12:34

The mods are always watching... :D

symanex 11-04-2007 13:21

sheep let me say to you that english is not the only language on the earth so you can say bla bla bla internationnal language bla bla bla affair language but i will let you remark that 1 billions on the 1.2 chineese and 600 millions on the800 millions indians doesn't even care about the english language and i remark to you that over 150 millions ppl in the world talk french , that french is the language to have been learn in the second place after spanish in the usa so you can talk how english is good and wonderfull but me i will say that english is a language as others not better , not greather not less good not less bad but i fallow the rules by making post in english only so zip it :) and don't talk about me mr so extraordinary :)

by the way what about an options of slow mode units and super rapid unit like the one in the cheathappen don't know if that possible but that can be good because unit like mamouth tank take really there time

Joe Forster/STA 11-04-2007 14:07

Actually, the largest nation speaking English (as a learnt language) is exactly the Chinese so try again. ;)

TheDarkLordSeth 11-04-2007 14:37

I use an Xp and whenever I load a saved game it crashes after 4 seconds. Anybody know why?

sheep 11-04-2007 18:15

@symanex

your still not getting the point.. as because of this, this will be the last time i post a reply to you no matter what dribble you post in reply to this.

I didnt SAY! the english language was the best, i simply gave a reason to WHY people learn languages and THEN!! (keep up if you can) gave a small example of MY own experience seeing that i am british i found it hard NOT to speak about the english language, the point of it all being that knowing more than 1 languge is not a challenge of intellect but more a exercise in TIME.

And if your going to go around quoting nonsence i suggest you at least look up the facts first, VAST!!!! areas of INDIA do indeed speak english main reason being the english only gave back independance from their occupation in 1947 because it was seen as an economical and social drain on england.

so, a recap.. i LOVE other languages.. GERMAN, FRENCH fucking SWAHILI i dont think english is ABOVE THEM!! i just dont need to learn them because they have no significant role in my life, if they did I WOULD, same way if i were to go onto a french speaking forum i wouldnt try speaking in english, id certainly make sure i KNEW what i was reading and writing, you should try and exercise the same restraints.

PCGamer 11-04-2007 22:37

Gee talk about a thread going off topic huh? lol

Ray Ray 11-04-2007 22:53

For some reason, I cannot get the three health options to work - no sound or anything. Everything else seems to work fine.

I'm using a Microsoft Wireless Elite Duo keyboard with F-Lock, so I don't know if maybe the keycodes for my F keys might be different, but I doubt it.

PCGamer 12-04-2007 03:31

Well I start the trainer before I start the game, but I don't press any of the trainers keys till the map has loaded and im on the battlefield. Alls fine with me :)

DABhand 12-04-2007 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by symanex (Post 339770)
....and don't talk about me mr so extraordinary :)

by the way what about an options of slow mode units and super rapid unit like the one in the cheathappen don't know if that possible but that can be good because unit like mamouth tank take really there time


I thought that was quite amusing myself :P Knowing what I know of course lol

TheDarkLordSeth 12-04-2007 05:48

Checked all but it still doesn't worked for me. Game still crashes.

TheDarkLordSeth 12-04-2007 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by کunβeam (Post 339801)
Well, if game crashes, you obviously are included in d. category.

The game is the english version.

Caboose O'Malley 12-04-2007 06:50

Do you get an error message TheDarkLordSeth? What does it say? Is it by any chance something along the lines of "cnc3game.dat error OUTOFMEMORY" or something similar? Have you tried without the trainer? You know, to rule out the trainer of being the cause.

TheDarkLordSeth 12-04-2007 06:54

I can play without the trainer working. I tried every possible way. Start the trainer first, then the game, vice versa. It crashes after I load any saved game and gives no error massege only the standart xp error window that asks if a copy of the problem should be sent to windows or not.

Caboose O'Malley 12-04-2007 07:02

Have you tried loading the save game first, then ALT+TAB to the desktop and start the trainer?
Try this also; I always do this...
1. Start trainer
2. Start Game
3. Before loading a save, WHILE IN the main menu, press the options that you had active when you saved (i.e. infinite power, instant build etc...)
4. NOW load the save...

TheDarkLordSeth 12-04-2007 07:47

Caboose O'Malley:
I said I've tried everything.

The error window has the cnc3game.dat heading and the following:

AppName: cnc3game.dat AppVer: 1.0.2588.1237 ModName: Unknown
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 OffSet: 6e752065


I can't copy the complete error report as it's too.... long and it doesn't let you copy.

Caboose O'Malley 12-04-2007 09:33

... Update... ?

TheDarkLordSeth 12-04-2007 10:21

No update. Sorry, but there are more important things and they are being downloaded. Remote Assistance sucks all the internet connection.

cabalxxvi 12-04-2007 11:37

Help
 
I am completely new to this forum but I wanted to ask about this retail trainer. I got my game from ea link and didn't get a retail version of it. The pwz trainer works just fine with my game but when I try to use the retail version it does nothing. My question is can someone make the trainer work with the ea link version of the game, I liked the trainer that was made but I had the sadness of it not working.

Thanks
Cabal

Ray Ray 12-04-2007 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by کunβeam (Post 339792)
Is it just me or is this thread full of people playing on laptops ? o_O I also hear no sound (gee, maybe because I removed the pc speaker cable - annoying) Tested it once with the Kane version, all the updates seem to work properly.

If you still have issues :

a. Make sure your system is free of any restraints (having anti-viruses or w.e. tools installed - freaking paranoid some of you - will interfere - probably)

b. Make sure you play on a system in which you have full privileges.

c. Trainer hasn't been designed to work on Vista. If you are a Vista user, switch program compatibility to XP SP2.

d. Check the game version, and the game language. If trainer is intended for the english version, don't try it on french :|

e. Start the game, alt-tab, start the trainer. Sometimes if you start the trainer before the game, it may not work.

Once you checked the above (am 100% sure you fit in one of them) - open your mouth and post your problem. Till then, good luck :)

I'm not on a laptop, and I forgot to mention that I'm running XP Pro SP2. Every option has sound except the three health options.

a. Everything is turned off, and I mean everything that isn't required to run the game.

b. Got it.

c. On XP SP2.

d. English v1.04

e. No worky either way.

Thanks for the tips, but I don't know what the problem is, except that it might be that my F keys output a different keycode than normal. I'll test that theory in a minute.

Ray Ray 12-04-2007 19:40

It still didn't work with a normal keyboard. Oh well...:(

It's still a good trainer.

TheDarkLordSeth 13-04-2007 00:46

It is a good trainer but I wish I could use it. No other trainer works by the way. They all crash my game.


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